The REAL reason hunters are OP

how do warlocks do that exactly lol

If you send your pet at someone, and they stealth, the pet will just follow them, and eventually hit them out of stealth.

“All of their kit”, they have no FD no scatter no bestial wrath no pet frenzy.

Also, Hunter is one of the highest skill ceilling class lmao. You don’t know what you are talking about but from you I don’t expect more since you are a troll.

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You have your main damaging abilities as well as the ability to kite. That’s far more than other classes get.

No, it isn’t.

I recognise your name, I assume if I go through your post history I’m going to read some absolute dribble? The fact that youthink hunter has a high skill ceiling tells me everything.

Look people, I’m not saying you’re bad at the game for playing hunter. I’m saying that every game has an ‘easiest’ option available and for this game it just so happens to be hunter.


Edit: Yep, there we go. Complaining about Feral nerfs in WoTLK as well as claiming ICC25 is too difficult. Sounds about right.

Regarding the debate above about how much skill the hunter class requires, I’d like to note that I personally think that hunter is both a very beginner-friendly class - but at the same time a class that is very challenging to play if you really want to master it.

Once you make it past the first (petless) nine levels, the class is very forgiving (= easy) for (solo) leveling.

Problems often arise as soon as a hunter joins a (dungeon) party - this is when usually glaring shortcomings in player skill become apparent. It is not without reason that hunters are probably the class with the worst reputation - and not just because they like to need on everything, but also because their rash behaviour regularly causes problems (or even group wipes).

On the other hand, if you’ve ever been in a group with a hunter who perfectly managed their pets, traps and mob kiting, you know that a hunter can be a real boon to a group.

The hunters’ epic bow quest at level 60 is certainly one of the biggest challenges in terms of class quests and skill - and it is not without reason that many hunters have failed it and had to ask more experienced fellow guild hunters to do the quest for them.

To summarise:
Hunters are probably the class with both the lowest and one of the highest skill ceilings - easy to learn, but hard to master.

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Lmao you’re a full on :clown_face:

Oh no!

Did I hurt the poor hunter’s feelings? It’s okay, I’m sure you’re very good at the game and mommy and daddy are very proud of you.

I’m more concerned that you have the right to vote in whichever country spawned you

Having looked at your post history, I think the laws regarding freedom of speech need changing.

I hope you didn’t hurt yourself, I’ll try using small words from now on

Hopefully not as small as your brain, though I don’t think there’s any words in the English dictionary that are that small.

Damn bro that must kill with your middle school buddies

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Yeah.

One day when you’re old enough for middle school, you can try it yourself!

Seems Like you have No Vanilla PvP experience. Hunter is without a doubt the highest Skill Cap class in the game next to mage and a Druid. Its Not retail Hunter, maybe you mix things up. I dont think you got any pserver or Classic experience before. No offense here ofc

Doubted by everyone that isn’t a hunter.

And that isn’t even what I’m saying. It has the lowest skill ceiling, you don’t have to be good at the game to be effective as a hunter. Plain and simple, a drooling keyboard turner is much closer to a master hunter than a drooling keyboard turner of any other class is.

My first class was a hunter, I was the drooling keyboard turner, I eveb used to move with my arrow keys. Hell, I geared strength on my hunter too. I was still able to stand my ground against people.

Hunter is NOT a difficult class.

Put a debuff on pets against players that makes their resistance per rank only 5 or 10 instead of 30 and increase their chance to miss against other players by some value, like 5% to 10% (but the damage values should remain).

That way you should have an easier time to CC the pet.

I believe in rock paper shotgun class balance. Sometimes, you aren’t supposed to be able to win, it is time for you to run. However that should apply for every class, there should be some opposite class that is going to dominate you regardless of who you are. Asking for a pet nerf across the board doesn’t seem to take into consideration what that means for PVE content. All a hunter has to bring is pure DPS, you gut that then what purpose do we serve? Lion I guess, only need one hunter for that.

The tactic against hunters should be to hibernate, fear, stun, gouge and whatever else the pet but if you can’t do that due to the resistance that pets get then like I said, only make it 5-10 resist per pet ability rank instead of 30 when it checks against player abilities. Good players will CC the pet and focus on the hunter.

“But I don’t have a CC”: There are lots of abilities I don’t have as a Hunter that completely screw me over. Warrior charges me while pet is distracted by another player and now I am struggling to get away from the warrior. Can I ask for a shield ability a blink ability and a melee stun? Oh someone CC’d my pet and is now ranged instacasting on me and I have no healing abilities. Well can I get a few healing abilities too while we’re at it? Maybe a silence against those sunfires?

Sometimes, things aren’t fair. That’s part of why we play classic. Because it isn’t hyperbalanced and homogenized with its toolkits across the board for some weird fever dream of being an esport. Sometimes you get to shine, other times you get to run.

However, if people can’t CC the pet consistently enough then that’s where the problem lies, not the damage. Hunters are pure DPS that’s kind of our thing.

TLDR:
Lower the resist from player abilitites.
Increase chance to miss from pet abilities on players slightly.
CC the pet, kill the hunter.
Can’t CC the pet? Then attack the hunter head on and ignore pet.
Can’t do that cause pet hurts too bad? Then run, it isn’t your time to shine.

Seems simple enough to me.

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It is :sweat_smile:, please watch some cdl dueling Vods . The amount of Things you have to do are rediculous. Even pet control to Not get both feard or novad from a mage, this alone raises the Cap Higher then elemental shaman for example. A Trash Hunter will be useless, ofc anybody can have some success viperstinging and aimshoting clothies. Things have Changed since 2004, highest ceiling for Sure

Don’t bother trying to make people understand here who literally hate the hunter for no apparent reason other than prejudice or bad, frustrating experience with a hunter in pvp. They are just parrots who only know how to repeat the same clichĂ©s about the hunter without really knowing the class.

The hunter currently only has the advantage of the level 25 cap, with the majority of SoD players almost completely unaware of vanilla wow at low lvl. Plus a real incompetence in pvp, associated with a belief that the hunter should only be a defenseless victim with his pet being nothing more or less than a minor nuisance that could be ignored to focus on the hunter.
Of these 12 runes, only 3 are really worth it, 4 maybe. No gameplay changes, no promising future.

Those who still find the hunter or his pet overpowered are simply INCOMPETENT. There is nothing else to add.

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When it comes to 1v1, it is easy to spot a good hunter and a bad one. So no.

There’s a ton who doesn’t manage their ranged/melee deadzone, autoshot weaving, understanding their rotation well enough to be able to modify it as their weapon changes, debuffs that affect AP, clever use of traps, and control of pet. On top of not utilizing traps/disarm/scared beast against other hunters.

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Are we seriously bringing “skill” into a vanilla wow with sprinkles debate?

Yes hunter pets do good damage, if the hunter gets the opener u will probably loose, just as with a lot of other classes. L2P issues.