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Because people will not perform better where it counts but sneak into the player pool where they don’t belong to. That means people who actually try to play the game properly and put in the required effort have less chance to get into groups due to the fotm reroller using ORB.
In the end nobody will be happy, it will just take some time until forum people realize something that obvious.
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If they can “sneak” they are performing better.
I disagree completely, I am happy currently with SBA. I see how much it helps people, and how it can be a relaxing way of playing while also not being terrible.
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I agree with you Naia. I am currently using the SBA addition with my other buttons. Since I have been using it, my performance has improved significantly, allowing me to focus more on the mechanics of the content I am doing. I’m having a more relaxed time and feeling less overwhelmed with everything to keep in mind.
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Yes, they are but not where it counts. That’s the point. You bring up players to a level where they should not be in the first place. If someone can’t learn something as basic as the damage rotation, the same person will not learn mechanics in the first place. But people will then have to deal with those people while not having a tool to separate them from people who actually want to play properly and did their homework.
Auto play has never encouraged people to improve, it always does the opposite. There is a reason why people who are pro ORB, don’t want it to be visible to other players 
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Heaven forbid anyone says anything against literal hacks level tools being made totally fine when making a macro that does less will get you banned.
I honestly wouldn’t give a rats behind if SBA was visible or not, but I also know how vile people can be; and how much they blame something irrelevant.
The people who behave poorly with SBA would have done so without too.
Nothing will force anyone to do anything.
If you are GENUINE in your worry about peoples performance, you wouldn’t pug.
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Exactly what i thought and rolled my eyes.
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You mix up here some stuff. Nobody argues that people who do poorly with OBR, would have done better without. That’s why they would stay out of the said pool and not cheat their way up.
This makes absolutely no sense. Are you trying to claim that people who pug don’t care about performance? That’s just plain wrong.
People pug because they can’t (or are not willing) to organize their life around WoW. If it was easy to always find people to play with, nobody would ever pug at all.
Kinda ironic how some people, who usually performed poorly were so anti addons, yet those people hype OBR so hard… Guess next logical step is to make WoW idle mobile phone game because… why not?
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Naia, my suggestion is to ignore the Daylen person.
They’re someone you can’t reason with (unless you’re agreeing with them), they believe they’re right and you’re wrong.
Best to add them to your ignore list on the forums, so you don’t have to see the utter drivel that they come out with.
I add them to my ignore list, once they said that if people can’t prove that they were not kicked out of a group/raid for no reason, then how do we get evidence of terrorism & child abuse…
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No I am not claiming that at all, I am saying if your were genuinely worried - you’d only do premade, otherwise: other people performing better, no matter how they do so, wouldn’t offend you.
People in pugs are always a gamble, and nobody sane expects pugs to perform well either.
I go in expecting the worst in a pug; and in some cases - I still get disappointed.
There is equal a chance people will perform better because of SBA, cause now they can focus on Interrupts / CC / Movement.
Also, You are throwing accusations around based on nothing.
"Kinda ironic how some people, who usually performed poorly were so anti addons, yet those people hype OBR so hard… "
I’d rather it became a solo game with optional party/raid, it’d cut out the vile people: no matter what their DPS stems from.
I advocate for SBA, and I would rank myself above average of a player.
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Like dungeon players the M+ bros… to bad for raiding but here we are… If you where cool for getting high end rewards for mid content why are you upset that this could help more get into content…
- It does not offend me, not sure where you got this from.
- I think I explained why pugging is not an option.
- Why should someone not be allowed to care about performance just because he is pugging? Makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes but it does not mean we should make it worse.
In case you understood that I mean you by that, I don’t. It’s not an accusation.
I try to make it easy understandable as possible: Casual and below average players already don’t want to play with similar people. You see this daily.
What ORB will do is just make people reroll fotm even more, especially the sepcs that do well with this “feature” but they will not therefore learn the mechanics. This will just end up in a much bigger mess than what we have right now.
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1: I got it from the way you are reacting about SBA existing, it offends your “playstyle”.
2: Yes, but then maybe you shouldn’t play this game?
3: If you care and you pug, you’re in perpetual hell quite frequently. Nothing is stopping anyone from being absolute dog-crap even without SBA.
Yes but it does not mean we should make it worse.
It might as well make it better? You saying it isn’t a fact.
I think SBA will make it better.
In case you understood that I mean you by that, I don’t. It’s not an accusation.
No, I understood it as you saying people in general who are pro SBA are worse players.
I clarified I am one who is Pro SBA, and I am not a bad player. Ergo; This accusation is moot.
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If a disabled person can get hall of fame with SBA despite the current penalty, then they very well deserve it. Stop trying to create artificial barriers just to make yourself feel superior to others. This game is for everyone.
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I’ll break it down to you M+ bros are the most toxic players lol… Want ppl to out gear content… O noes them filthy casuals might want to do something more now… How will your ego cope.
Wow…
- Please do not try to use your false interpretation on me. Use what I said, not what you believe I mean.
- So I should quit the game because of a flawed system in the game?
Should I guess what you would’ve responded if I had said that people who need this feature should just quit the game? - You still miss the point. Hilarious.
It’s about not pushing this people into the average player pool. These people will suffer the most because the people who failed before reaching this spot, getting a “cheat” function, to sneak into this pool while not improving.
Right. People who refuse to learn something very basic as their damage rotation will now suddenly learn dungeon mechanics and perform better at higher levels. That’s basically delusional.
How about you use factual examples based on reality? Do you want to deny the fact that there are people who struggle with certain mechanics but are able to land the kill (or completing the dungeon) once they are more geared (or receive buffs to have more dmg/heal/tankyness) without improving on their gameplay?..
That’s not what I said…
There is no accusation towards you. Stop trying to be a victim so hard.
I understand you seem to have some outraged hate towards M+ players but what exactly do you want me to tell you now? Or you just need to vent?
Also, next time try to have consistent logic because raid players want usually more than M+ players, so by using your own logic, raid players are per definition more toxic than M+ players 
Not only do they want to outgear the content, they want you to have a kill achievement on week 1 (obviously a bit exaggerating here but week 2 is real), preferably way above required performance (logs) and then they want an overkill on specific specs (or roles, usually healer) to make up for their own lack of skill.
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You claim others missunderstand you, yet you missunderstand others way worse.
You’re taking offence right now to what I am saying to you.
TLDR; If you are hyper focused about others performance and wish everyone to be good around you, you wouldn’t pug for your own sanitys sake - because throughout ALL years of gaming, Pugging = Gamble = often bad players encounters.
SBA won’t change that.
And yes, it might help people improve because they can, as I said, focus on Movement; interrupts and CC.
If you sincerely think SBA will auto-handle “kills” to people, you have completely ignored the system we play in.
Movement, Interrupts and CC as well as Dungeon Knowledge is VASTLY more important.
There is no accusation towards you. Stop trying to be a victim so hard.
You do not even comprehend me telling you that Worse players =/= advocating for SBA.
Not really venting always looked down on M+… why I have done zero lol… You always find ways to cry about others daring to try it or judging ppl to do runs with…
I don’t see raiders Crying about everything… Wha delvs are taking away players… Wah we don’t get enough crests, Wah its too hard, Wah 1 button players aren’t worthy… I can keep going 
If I ever came back for group content it would be the real thing raiding.