No, but it means he is scales to Deathwing, while Sylvanas doesn’t have a single feat that scales to Malfurion. Even before Deathwing, Khadgar kills Medivh. He is 100% weaker than him, but he is not fodder to say, oh Deathwing 1 shots him, when Medivh is more powerful than Deathwing. See what I’m saying? Sylvanas doesn’t have feats that scale to Malfurion’s power, when they fought. Her biggest Ws at that point are against Gen Graymane and a weakened Arthas, both of which are fodder to Furion. Not only that, she actually gets 1 shoted by Gen’s son and was it 2 or 3 valkaries have to sac themselves to bring her back to life.
The best way to explain what power scaling is Luke from Star wars. In New hope he is fodder to Darth Vader. He doesn’t have feats, he doesn’t have power, if he fights Vader in New hope, he is dead instantly 100/100. In Empire Like scales to Darth Vader. He is weaker, he loses the fight, but he is not fodder that gets 1 shoted and we can all agree Luke would win in a fight against another character like Han Solo, because of their encounters vs Vader (Han getting destroyed in cloud city). Return of the Jedi he scales defeats Vader, meaning he is 100% above his power level and can use that fight as a reference of how well he would against the Emperor, for example.
That’s not true. His powers are actually very pinpointed. Malfurion is relative to Archimonde. That’s a fact, based on the cannon. it doesn’t matter what type of magic he uses. The only scenario where it would matter is if he fights in a baren wasteland, although it is stated that if that happens he can fuel power from the Emerald dream, like he did against Xavius and Hakkar.
No, it is really arbitrary logic. You’re trying to construct a formulaic and objective way to deduct if one story character should be able to beat another. That is the equivalent of the scouter in Dragonball Z.
That is not how it works.
What?! No! Just…no!! That is the worst interpretation of Luke’s character development I have ever read. Ever. You’re ruining the trilogy!
The battles have nothing to do with power scaling. They have everything to do with the personal relationship between Vader and Luke. In the beginning Luke loses because Vader is just an enemy. Then he becomes his father. And then they become father and son. Luke’s prowess grows as his relationship with his father grows.
When you don’t get the concept of power scaling, why are you arguing about power scaling . Power scaling is judging characters abilities based on previous feats and battles.
Power scaling is relative in any story. If it wasn’t and the wrtiers can just make up battle outcomes, what’s stopping them to say Mayev utterly destroys Aggramaar or something ridicilous? It breaks the suspension of disbelief. Power scaling, especially in a fantacy story is very important and is one of the biggest reason, together with multiple retcons and illogical character progress, that makes WoW’s storyline pretty bad.
Leveling up is a gameplay mechanic, it has nothing to do with the lore. Did Illidan leveled from level from 70 in TBC, after we beat him to 120 by sitting in a warden crystal prison? No, ofcourse not, gameplay levels have nothing to do with lore.
Is level 85 Rag in Firelands weaker than a level 115 turtle from Kultiras, in the lore? It would be pretty silly to answer with “yes”.
Uhm, no it isn’t. Unless it is a written power up, like the Skull of Guldan for Illidan or a powerdown like the titan essense from the aspects, the NPCs power level isn’t in flux.
There is a very informed guess. In the Sylvans vs Malfurion and Sylvans vs Night warrior Tyrande, the outcome of the fight is silly, because she never had a power level or a feat similar to those characters.
But as I said, this is a problem with the story since Illidan vs Arthas.
I think I would really have enjoyed the story much more if Sylvanas was replaced with a new “Champion” of the Jailer chara.
At least for me known charas like Thrall, Baine, Jaina, Anduin, Tyrande and Sylvanas make everything worse, because you have a certain picture and expectations of them.
Baine sitting around being nothing but useless, Tyrande getting her a*s kicked all the time after a super dangerous power up, and Jaina being either unbeatable or a weakling to somehow fit into all is just rediculous.
I’ve watched countless cinematics these days trying to make sense of what’s going on. I simply can’t.
Sylvanas is yelling right and left: serve serve serve, all shall serve Death.
Then gets all pissy when Zovaal commands them to serve.
Like whaaat? It makes Zovaal looks like a victim here. Like bish that was the plan, you were all up for it. You didn’t care who had to be sacrificed in the process, you didn’t care that we will all SERVE eventually, no, you embraced it!
Then we get the derp face and a “no no no, no serving mate, I just just kiddin alright?”
And the whole other soul plot, to make it more dramatic, because there’s nothing more sad than a dead elf reunited with her innocent side to enforce the idea that she’s suffering from some bipolar disorder.
Now I want him to win and save us all from this terrible story.
Ughh, I need help. I might just unsub again, I can’t see a reason for me to continue with this franchise. It’s just that curiosity is getting out of me after being invested in this game’s lore for so long and I really need to know where is this ending.
But either way, I know it’s going to be lame.
A billion dollar company comes with such an awful storyline, it’s incredible. There’s so many fan theories that are brilliant and interesting and an army of experienced writers can’t come up with anything intelligent. It’s really astonishing at this point.
It’s a fantasy game and I simply forget the past and get on with the expansion and save the analysis until later - as a result I am enjoying the story and definitely feel motivated to fight towards a solution -
the mechanics are quite nicely balanced and there is no no need to do the same things every day, so I might login for some dungeons one day, some Torghast tomorrow and world quests and campaign the next day, or whatever - it has never been so free and relaxing to play and make some progress every day
I get into the deeper aspects of the lore and it’s history and all the retcons in between content not at the time, I have my contentious issues too but do not let that get in the way of my gameplay - advise this approach to some of you as it makes life easier
To the op, leave out Christie Golden she has had enough grief the past few days, after having death threats on Twitter, end of the day it is just a game after all…now back to the lore and story currently.
The issue is that BFA was an unfinished story we have some loose ends that were not tied up. For example that giant sword in Slitithus ring a bell? Or X’alathath that we freed from the weapon and we saw Sylvannas wielding now we no longer see Sylvannas with it, so where is the weapon and X’alathath?
Fast forward to SL and in all honesty it seems to me as being a bad version of the Harry Potter novels and Lord of the Rings novels mashed together to create a real lore mess. For example we have the Eye of the Jailer aka the Eye of Sauron, even the towers of the Maw look like the towers of Mordor. The Mawsworn and jailer army looks like the armies of Sauron. Put a helm of domination on the Jailer and I bet he will look like Sauron.
Even the sorting of souls into the covenants is like the sort of wizards into the houses of Harry Potter, not to mention that the primus is somewhat a Gandalf/Dumbledore hybrid. Plus now we have soul splitting, aka Voldemort. I am waiting for us to get hobbit like racials as the new allied races to seal the deal.
Of course I may be just finding similarities but the WOW story is not unique at all anymore its just bad, copied attempts at some of the better stories out there, pasted together and tossed in with a few not so surprises and twists to create an expansion story. Its not even fan fiction, its more like a few fan’s creative writing homework, where they simply could not bother to write anything decent and submitted the notes they had.
As for rebooting WOW and getting out of the Shadowlands, the developers and writers arleady have a few options they have dangled in front of us. They can use the laws of the Shadowlands for an easy way out. For example we could have died after BFA and are asleep in Ardenweald, waiting to reborn, we wake up to a new world. Or we could have ended up in Bastian where our memories were wiped and this is all just a nightmare. Go a step further back to BFA and this could all be one big corrupted vision from N’zoth we are stuck in and somehow we fight our way out and have to save Azeroth.
Or the writers could pull another WOD and this expansion is all just relative to SL and not to any other expansion, as they did with WOD’s Draenor.
I ain’t sending her death threats on Twitter and those who do are scum of the earth.
I’d make everything that happened after Wrath, as an Old God vission in Sylvana’s head, when she died, falling on saronite, which is the blood of Yogsaron.
No but you said the following about Christie Golden:
Instead Blizzard decided to milk the franchise harder than Disney milking Star Wars and put Christie Golden in charge, an author that clearly doesn’t care about Warcraft lore, with the sole purpose if making it into a Twilightesk drama.
This to me is just as bad because it further stirs up an already bad situation that has turned life threatening in some aspects.
I think very few people would mind a rollback at this point. All they need to do is accept they screwed up and everyone would give them an understanding nod.
A scenario where we travel back in time looking for Zovaal and we accidentally rollback everything to pre - BFA sounds excellent, or anything really.
Teldrassil is just a huge mistake they’ve been trying to fix ever since. A time travel is the only solution to undo this, or yes, a void nightmare.
. Power scaling is judging characters abilities based on previous feats and battles.