That’s fine. It also heavily depends on what event is happening.
If it’s some random food festival then they surely can include strangers.
If it’s some heavily (for their group) important story event then it makes no sense to include others.
Many just do the whole “sorry event” thing for even the most simple events, which is odd.
Another thing decreasing quality of RP that many RPers, including you, are doing:
Acting like OOC time of the day is IC time of the day.
I work from 6:30 - 8 AM to 2 - 4 PM, I literally cannot RP my character during the time when they would actually do stuff like travelling or working and the same applies to most roleplayers. Reason why RP happens mainly between 8 and 10 PM server time is because that´s the time when most of us can sit in front of the computer.
I´m not saying we should introduce some 12 hour difference between IC and OOC times, but it would be really nice if people wouldn´t go “tHeRe ArE cHiLDrEn sLeEpInG HErE” when some social gathering is taking place in vicinity of the Orphanage.
Merchants don´t have to explain why they aren´t in Trade District, Goldshire is not an STD-ridden place that deserves to be nuked, Sentinel Hill is never visited, for every 2 years in RP only 1 year passes in lore and it doesn´t matter what time your clock is showing. These are not difficult rules to follow.
I am well-aware of this, I have friends who work both nights and days, and can’t get on all times during the day. It was simply my point of view, that in those evenings, would you yell advertisements about your shop or market spot? I am fine with people yelling when they RP that they are drunk, that’s just banter when someone yells, “Think about the kids”, but…
Well, do you pretend it’s 10AM when it’s 18PM at night in Real Life? Or do you have the greatest immersion I’ve ever seen who can pretend it’s day time despite everyone else acting like it’s nighttime or evening? Cause when it gets dark in-game, that’s usually when most think its dark for their characters too…
You are missing the point that it´s literally impossible to do most RP during OOC time when it should be happening, which is why you don´t point out to people what time it is OOCly.
Or would you prefer if most characters in RP spent time inside their houses with their families like people do in real life and most shops would be closed and all the stuff we do like market RP, travel or combat happened off screen?
RP is not real life.
Literally said it in comment you quoted. There´s middle ground between acting like it´s morning or malding over people doing shop RP. You simply don´t address the time of the day as something relevant.
Hold on a second. I knew people would try it with high elves, but… did people send actual void elves there? It’s not like… there’s any of them in the Argent Crusade or other neutral groups, even.
Crowton is quoting a specific example of void elf GM of Argent Crusade guild that doesn´t accept void elves, recruiting people in Orgrimmar.
Can´t even make this stuff up.
I think we just have a different view of “realism” that is needed for each to RP how they want to RP. I like hearing the bell ring on the clock tower with the specific dings to let my characters know what time it is, and I RP from that perspective. Most can’t, due to IRL and other things they need to do during day, or evening, I completely get that. But that is just my preferred method and how I like to RP. But I RP extremely simple characters, civilians and the likes, and I have most of the day to RP. I get having shops open late, cause I can always make it an IC excuse of “Well, why would they have their shops open during the day when everyone is at work or training? They wouldn’t get any customers.”
I think it’s just agree to disagree, because everyone likes to RP their stuff differently, and everyone has their own point of view and perspective, and how they like to do things. That is just my look of pet-peeves.*
Edit: It’s just how to learn to adapt to other people as well, and what they like, do, etc. Otherwise the world of RP would be a pit of fire.
*Before anyone comes at me with what I said about about DH’s and shiet, that’s basic lore knowledge that they shouldn’t be tending bars rather than hunting shiet. So don’t at me…
Same reasons why most shops in RL are open during the day and not the night. People don´t really go out at 10 PM to buy new shovel for their garden and employees also have their own lives.
Which is exactly why I think people who make big deal out of what time it is OOCly are harming realism in RP by trying to force on others that all the activities which would in any DnD game, fantasy book or movie take place during the day are actually taking place in late evening/early night.
Nobody goes to stables at 8 PM and drives off to travel through dark, unlit forest to fight bandits, merchants open their shops in the morning and close in the evening and battles consisting of hundreds people tend to take place during the day.
There´s a reason why I used Goldshire as an example. Of course you would find what would look like the most depraved brothel IRL by coming there, but people tend to ignore that fact. That does not make RP less realistic, on the contrary, by ignoring what is quite clearly happening in the game the RP world is more realistic because Goldshire as calm town makes much more sense.
You said it, mate.
I didn’t say I was forcing people to accept that the time is that time, I am simply saying, my characters view is that when the clock tower rings at 9PM, it’s 9PM for them, doesn’t mean I am going around telling people, “Hey, it’s late, you should go to bed.” It’s just how my characters revolve around time, it’s not a daily part of my RP, but I like having a time, and timeline of my characters lives, so I don’t have to sit there going, “Oh, yeah, i went to work at whatever time you find appropriet space of 8 hours working day and came home at whatever time you find appropriet for an 8 hour work day.”
I simply like having a time perspective in RP, sue me.
I like visualizing WoW differently than you do, including from my point of RP, not one way is correct or false, you just have to learn how to adapt to the other person’s way of viewing things, which is how RP is even created.
I’ve said my peace, and I can’t tell if this has developed into an arguement or discussion, but my opinion and way of RPing time and night time, won’t change because of how you Roleplay, I still am gonna react to what time it is when the clock tower rings, cause that’s how I RP my characters. I am sorry that it might offend the people who still think 9PM is 5PM.
I don’t see how, “It’s 11PM, I have to go to bed now, cause I got work tomorrow morning.” being said in RP is gonna ruin someone elses RP immersion.
And for Goldshire, God, I wish it was a peaceful calm little shire, I do. So at least we can agree on that. WM on for the win.
Is it an actual Void Elf that is the GM?
I’m going to flip this one on it’s head and add:
Taking IC hostility as OOC hostility.
Just because I want to turn your smarmy, treacherous void elf to ash, doesn’t mean I want to murder you or ruin your fun.
I’m not sure actually, I’ve seen the guy who is mentioned here walk about, but I haven’t checked if he’s an actual ren’dorei or a quel’dorei…
I guess context is completely lost on you.
And yet you said this:
It´s absolutely fine to have a personal opinion and if someone wants to have their RP limited to late evening (or RP the entire day because they are one of few people who can do that), it´s their right.
That´s not what you wrote in your first comment on this topic though, where you told people to stop using /yell in Stormwind after 9 PM because kids are sleeping.
Yep.
Explanation they provide is “I don´t do alts”.
What? Surely that’s exactly what the ingame clock is for?
Jazz music stops Well that’s not good 
Yes, this is a pet peeve, I wrote Advertisements, not that people should all together stop yelling no matter the time of day. That is once again, my level of thought that goes into my RP that sure, they can yell, but my character is gonna react like it’s late and to think about the kids unless I Rp some rebel person who is gonna yell along with them. Im not gonna go hunt the person down and be like, “Hey, stop yelling, its late.” But the people Im with, my char might grind a bit about the time to yell advertisements.
RP is about creating a story and that story should not be limited by OOC thing such as what time it is in real life (±1 hour for our English, Portuguese or eastern European friends).
For example when your guild does an event where they depart in the morning or when there´s public market happening during main RP hours.
Right, but a story needs rules. Time is one them, although flexible. I think you’re being beyond obtuse to suggest that using the SEVER time which is STANDARDISED for all regions, is lowering the quality of roleplay.
Edit: For anytime i’ve required an event of mine to happen at a time where nobody can be around, it’s simply glossed over in a summary before the actual event starts, simply because life works that way.
Crazy suggestion here
How about we just let people advertise their guilds at whatever time they can to bring in people who can only RP at those times and not act as if it’s lowering the quality of Stormwind RP, because trust me, it’s not as bad as some of the yelling that occurs.
Love the fact it says Night Elf Priest, when your character is still viewed as a Dwarf on the forums xD
Confusion Level 100.
I’m good with that, but my character is still gonna react to the “Darn yelling” because it’s happening during RP. They can still do it, it’s just a pet peeve of mine.