We’ll never know the skill cap of pugs, considering every content that isn’t specifically designed to hinder pugging (HC raids and high keys) has been pugged at the same pace as organized groups do it.
It is not that much a matter of skill, but a matter of communication and encounter difficulty.
HC raids mainly require throughput, and abit of communication at the end (see tindral dispels and fyrakk seeds).
Mythic on the other hand keeps the throughput requirements but adds ALOT more communication. Mainly the way guilds tackle those is by throwing dozens or even hundreds of wipes on them, something that pugs would not have the ability to do.
Yea would be great if they change their stance on this…its just bad that you can farm m plus for your crests, but not myth raid, because you have one shot or your id is done for the week if you killd the first boss.
But having a reason to log in and play the game is not the motto of this expansion.
The chinese booster are getting payd in $$$, which filling the hall of fame everytime 
Blizzard removed them. Money wasted.
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Not sure why I should not talk about topics very relevant to the main topic or ignore arguments to them. That would be failing to see the bigger picture. Like changing the tires on your car without knowing which season it is.
Conceptually this is fine, as it is against the TOS. It just needs to be enforced properly and problem solved.
Nowadays there are less and less guilds and more pug-like communities from my experience. The reason people pug and/or partake in community runs is the absence of the need of commitment which would be usually found in a guild. This flexibility should also be reflected in the lockout.
I think being able to bypass bosses is a question different from what I am asking. You could still implement it in such a way that you need to kill the prerequisite bosses. What is important is being able to progress with different groups without getting locked to a single group and the availability of the boss disappearing from your lockout.
Start two topics.
You had a lockout stolen, lockouts need to change I agree
You countered an imaginary argument that hadn’t happened thereby derailing what was a good and needed suggestion.
Boosting and wow token bad topics can go perfectly on their own and you all can have fun with the conspiracies that follow.
Not hard mate.
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They should dispense tinfoil at the entrance to this thread. What a pile of hot garbage.
It’s like evaluating a job prospect, asking them a question, getting a decent answer and thinking “this is promising” followed by them licking the desk and saying we should bow down to the lizard people.
Yea the lockout system is antiquated. No, you didn’t “own” it. The team did and someone else from the team used it.
The point about boosting is OP’s way of highlighting a potential downside to their proposed way of changing the mythic lockout to work like the normal/heroic lockout does. The current mythic lockout doesn’t allow for repeated boosts by the same group in a single reset. There are boost groups that just kill the end boss on heroic over and over for hours, which isn’t possible to do on mythic with how the lockout works, but would become possible with OP’s proposed change unless countermeasures were put in place.
But just to add my own points to the topic, I don’t think WoW token really is a problem when it comes to Mythic boosting in particular. The amount of money one would need to spend on WoW tokens just to afford a worthwhile mythic boost is astronomically insane. You’re looking at around a million gold for one of the early bosses, with the later steadily rising up in price up to several gold caps. Just one boss would then cost the buyer 60€ in WoW tokens, so even getting a single mythic vault would be around 180€. For a full mythic boost, you’re looking at several gold caps, so thousands of euros if the WoW token route is taken. It’s just not very plausible to pay for mythic boosts this way for 99.9% of players.
A player looking to buy a boost with IRL money is much more likely to choose an “illegal” route simply because it’s significantly cheaper and more convenient than WoW tokens, but even then, mythic boosts are just far too expensive in terms of in-game gold, and most players buying those boosts would have earned the needed gold via in-game means, rather than real money, because even the illegal way is far too expensive.
Also, yeah the lockout needs to go. The people defending the lockout don’t have a good reason to defend it beyond “it’s just how it has been for a long time so it has to stay that way”. Boosting will happen anyway and mythic boost are way too expensive for most people and not worth it compared to heroic boosts. Easing down on the lockout wouldn’t magically cause pugs to get CE, but it’s fairly common to quite easily pug the few early bosses every week for vault, and currently doing that carries the risk of the group disbanding, resulting in the inability to try again in the same reset.
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and it will somehow be read here in forums on eu by developers? if you dont want to send it to magical suggestion box then why make a thread here ?
All I see is 2+2=5
Unless it was a booster who stole the lockout I see no need for pointless essays or double topics.
Also OP is well able to speak for himself as he has proven, you don’t need to butt in lad.
now can I have my notifications back or are you going to try and drag me into more time wasting?
Jesus Christ, talk about being wilfully ignorant. The absolute refusal to see the connection between lockouts and boosting is borderline comical. Either that or you genuinely don’t have the mental capacity to see it.
I… what?
The mythic lock out is no different from the lock outs used in the past, as raids only had on difficulty then, it makes sense that it’s used for the hardest difficulty now, especially as boosting (both legit and otherwise) has sadly exploded in recent years.
you think I’m wrong
I don’t care what you think
how has that not been obvious to you?
Now can I please leave this damn awful mess of a topic or are you going to continue walking into this wall?
You are free to leave anytime
You come in with a question, get a clear answer from multiple people, refuse to acknowledge or even entertain said answers and instead get pissy about it, and then expect an express permission to not keep responding. Are we really the ones not being reasonable here, or could it be you?
You have the right and my permission to not respond to this. It might even be for your own good before you manage to make an even bigger fool of yourself than you already have.
People want to remove the feeling of earning stuff anyway 
Is there a wheel between the two buttons on your mouse?
Learn to use it.
Yet I keep getting replies and notifications, if they stop then guess what?
For a second I thought you might actually be making a point for the first time in this thread.
So do we, but you are the one whining about it.