You have an unhealthy relationship with money…
You are playing a videogame. Something you do when you dont work, and normally people pay for that privelege.
And its supposed to be relaxing and fun. And if you think your job makes you feel more fulfilled maybe you should be doing that instead of WoW.
Mhm, yeah I’ve been playing wow on/off since 2005. I’ve tried every expansion and I got 25k achievement pts, but I don’t get wow 
All this gatekeeping is just sad “I did it when it was slow af and boring now you should suffer too” that’s just an old and outdated perspective. All this Microsoft simping is just weird.
sl never existed. we never talk about this here
I loved torghast, i hope it comes back in some other form sometime. Without the bugs ofc.
Now, imagine doing this live, while you barely have any gear to progress through cause you are a pvper and you dont have the HUGE pve items to push through with a breeze, every single time a patch recks your leggo (that you need boreghast to farm) again n again n again, Plus all the chores and quests of the campaign you had to go through if you DARED to make an alt in trashlands for you to enter arena and face all the “boosted duelist” andies that had 20k hp more than you 2 shotting you if you just started your alt.
Oh, and add countless hours of getting farmed in BGS also to “upgrade” a gear that doesnt even matter on arena cause again you would face 90% the boosted andies and the boosters no matter the rating.
Worse expansion together with Trash F A and Lolgion for PvP.
Now come, lemme give you a hug.
(and ye, you saw nothing.)
How many expansions you played or how many achievement points you’ve got has obviously nothing to do with if you understand WoW or not.
I play WoW since Cata non stop and got 40k points, and?
It is about that you do what you like in the game and what you don’t like you just don’t do.
If the hours you spend in Torghast are not worth the rewards for you, then don’t do it.
Again, WoW is a time based game and you should be happy abt that it allows you in later expansions to do old content way faster, imagine they would scale you down to the SL ilvl we had, and btw exists in certain other games.
What is an “old and outdated perspective” is subjective, I think WoW is in this case good how it is.
That is not what I am saying.
What I am saying is that it used to be “slow af”. And once it becomes old content it gets 0 maintanence.
So it STILL is “slow af”. Because nobody cares about it. And because nobody cares, neither does Microsoft.
And on top of that, “slow af” becomes “slower as af” because that content dosent get updated to new mechanics. So it becomes buggy.
And all that is not an opinion. Its an observation.
So with that information, if your game is achevement hunting you should spend your time playing current content. Not outdated one that gets 0 support.
Sounds like an absolute nightmare ngl. As bad as it is now, once im done with this “twisting corridors layer 8” i’m not going to do these anymore, until maybe at the end of TWW when it’s easier. And I bet Jáy will be going mad over how it took him and other 600 hours to complete and I managed to do it in less than 60.
You will bump into the same problems regarding DF content if you plan on doing it at the end of TWW. Just saying.
Yeah you might be right. The most reasonable thing to do is be 2-3 expansions behind
I’m not mad, it’s just sad that some people think they have extra rights! 
That is even worse. 3 expansions of compounded new systems affecting content that received 0 maintanence/updates in 9 years… Guaranteed bugs IMO.
Ive been trying to say that the best and most efficient thing is to play the current expansion.
Slow but steady. Instead of trying to gobble up 1 expansion worth of content in 1 month.
Ironically, it was a lot more fun when it was harder. The randomly generated enemies and the powers you would get to defeat them - the variety that would create made for a much more engaging experience.
But it was never particularly fun. The atmosphere was dreadful - you think it was dark? It wasn’t dark enough. For a place of torture, it was strangely… silent.
That’s basically what I’ve been doing since WOD, with the exception of BFA during the pandemic. I dont have unlimited time, I got other stuff to do, like work!
Anyway, you may now all refer to me as “Spirestalker Fresh” 
I used to rock climb. I dont have time anymore…
So I dont do it anymore. I do other things.
Same with WoW. If your job is so time consuming that you can only spend 1 month every 2 years in wow you should consider playing something else.
OR… atleast be conscious of the consequences. You know what to expect. So dont be surprised and start demanding hand-overs.
If these are not sarcasm, you should go out and touch grass.
On topic: Do what the rest of us do. Ignore that content until it gets fixed in a future update. If it gets fixed, that is.
I am one of those people who actually liked doing it. The random abilities, the semi-random levels and how hard it was at some point really made it fun for me. The only thing that might improved it further is a little change in scenery.
I never enjoyed torghast and my class never got any fun powers either. I’m glad that’s all behind us now.
And having the “talent tree” account wide.
Kinda on the fence with Torghast - hated it at first (especially solo), but once i had a regular bunch of guys to run it with, it wasn’t so bad. Same thing with Island Expeditions in BFA - Had 2 guys i used to max out the Azerite every wednesday (one quit during SL, the other i still do a bit of M+ with)