I feel like one of our big problems is how our Mastery works. As it stands right now, the vast majority of our raw healing comes from Echo of Light, which is a heal over time effect that works best during long fights and on as many targets as possible, hence why our raid HPS can be extremely impressive.
But it’s also why we struggle so much in m+ where Echo of Light is very lackluster. M+ is all about burst healing, which oddly enough Holy Priest sucks at. Even our biggest and best single target burst heal, Serenity, feels like a wet noodle that barely has any effect on high HP tanks. I will still never understand why Renew is so terrible - and it even has 2 dedicated talents tied to it that I think literally nobody ever picks because the base spell is next to useless! The spec is just so poorly designed.
You were quite right here, I have been mixing the game mechanics. I did some google searches and something i previously read that agreed they use both is pretty much null and void and they are on the same lines as paladin (though theirs is the whole class) on being purely of the light.
Mechanically speaking its still a good thing, having damage spells of a 2nd school is still a plus.
Mechanically speaking, it is indeed good, but I feel like Blizzard chose the lazy way out on this one, under the guise of “Well people want their spells back.”
They could have given Holy priest similarly functioning spells with a holy theme, but for the sake of “mechanics,” work as shadow spells. If they wanted.
I am thoroughly disappointed with the way they have not only handled holy priests this far (Let alone other abandoned specs like Enhancement shaman and Survival hunter.) But the way they’ve handled the un-pruning is also excrutiatingly painful. They’re throwing spells back in the hand of the players, without putting any thoughts behind it.
Our hunter main in our raiding guild memes it so hard, everyone’s growing tired of hunter already. Shamans’ got Flametongue in Ele spec, but it’s so bad it does nothing.
This was a great opportunity for Blizzard to give back niche, flavor abilities (Eyes of the beast being a great example.) And giving other specs who need it (Holy priest, enha shaman, survival hunter etc) A few extra niches of their own.
Random irrelevant things stated as “facts” dont really work.
If you have actual facts on how this marketing trick works, do it otherwise just another irrelevant post
I think the idea of the “unpruning as marketing” is meant as a whole, not just holy priest. Many classes and specs were given very useless abilities back, some even being detrimental to gameplay (Hunter’s mark.) But Blizzard have, in the eyes of many, done a great thing, because this is what the community asked for right? No one but the executives who made the decisions knows the true facts, but through speculation, the idea of unpruning does lend itself more to benefit marketing, than the actual players.
We disable and ban multiboxes!!
We don’t allow premades inside BG’s!!
Our GM’s will give a damn when you have a problem!!
We will balance classes correctly this time!!
ETC ETC.
Now un-pruning as marketing… Its just like saying cutting character level to half is actual marketing as well which both make no sense.
Isn’t this why it’s seen as a problem? Blizzard is ignoring long-standing issues, and instead of fixing them, they’re spending time and talking about how much they’re doing through stuff like unpruning.
Please do not misunderstand, I do not think it’s good. I would much rather see actual effort and power back in the hand of GMs, and I would much rather see more class & spec work, than just unpruning and calling it a day.
No one here is saying “Unpruning is marketing” as a positive, quite the contrary.
Well someone said that it is actually marketing so did you, to that i answerwed and told you that its obviously not.
Now will you prove me how exactly this thing is a marketing?
Where was it listed to actually increase the shadowlands marketing value?
Was it stated in the receipt?
The moment you use a feature or a concept in your active advertisement or promotional material, it becomes part of marketing. And unpruning was one of the features Blizzard was more than happy about talking about and announce.
Kindly stop being so aggressive, we’re just discussing here.
I do not see disagreement as aggression, never did I even insinuate such, you’re the one insisting you’re right and actively trying to shut others down and shouting for proof, when you have not presented anything of your own.
Also, Marketing, as described by the English dictionary; “The action or business of promoting and selling products or services, including market research and advertising.”
The moment Unpruning of abilities and spells were publically made known by Blizzard themselves, it became part of marketing.