Undispellable Seals

like you said base mana. yet with shamans having 5k+ mana on a fight where they will just hit the boss, frostshock on CD and spam poison cleanse on party to remove 1 poison from all 5 people on every cast of Poison Cleansing Totem (or Disease if there were any devasting diseases to begin with).
Oh yeah your old friend SR which you will have plenty of in a raid, will keep your mana high and not worry about running OOM, something I have to yet witness on shamans.

everyone else takes it, you do the work. L.

and so does cleanse, abolish and others.

i’m not answering anything else before you clarify whether 10% base mana is “a lot” or “vacation”.

seal/judgement of wisdom/matyr.

so, like every other dispeller/cleanser then.
ok.
“W”.

this does not say “attempts”.
it works every time, 100% of the time.

this one has an attempt cleanse on demand, along with a guaranteed cleanse on tick, and it ticks every 2 seconds.
at least that’s what it implies, because the word “attempt” is only used in the former part of the tooltip whereas the latter implies it will remove 1 more every 2 seconds for 8 seconds.

even if both aspects are “attempts” its still 2 seconds tickrate compared to shaman’s 5 seconds.

seems pretty fair and balanced to me tbh.

OP vacation spell amirite.

it does not, that also goes for other dispel/cleanse effects.

god your knowledge is such garbage.

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if that was the case, the use of the term “attempt” would be included in the tooltip, like it does for everything else that has a chance to fail.

see how there’s a distinct lack of the term “attempts” in the priest dispel too?
that’s because it works every time, without a chance to fail (save against enemy targets who have dispel protection which is the only exception).

same goes for decurses for both mage and druid.

you take the tooltips too seriously, it is a given that those dispels can resist from removing whatever you want to remove.

just ran strat as sham tank (so smooth and easy on aoe compared to pally tank BTW) and those abom packs were the easiest totem presses of poison cleanse i’ve ever done.

screw silences that i wouldve had the same problem with on pally.

one gcd for 5 people depoison vs 5gcds for 5 people depoison.
go ahead, tank it and dont have the druid depoison but you spam your totem. it works wonders.

Pretty sure spell hitchance is in the picture when purge/dispell is used on an enemy.

Not possible to get 100% in classic.
Work all the time on friendly targets unless there is some sort of dispell protection.

However
 there is not alot of that in ckassic wow

that’s a resist.
not the same thing.
dispel protection and chance for the spell to fail (the “attempt”) means the spell hits, but does nothing.

so does that mean you would officially refer to yourself as a fotm cringe shaman gaslighter then?
how ironic is it that you’ve campaigned against shaman for a full year, and now you are one.

And spellhit reduce the resist chance. Wow man really xD

there’s a difference between not admitting your class is just beyond broken, see shaman, and having to deal with multiple crutches on your main, in this case paladin.

also wow your raids are somuch easier thanks to the things you got from alliance and that will be doubled in value thanks to shamans alone in temple of AQ. but it always has been that way since P2.

seems like you still don’t get it.
lol.

you can’t resist a friendly spell.
that’s why healers don’t go for spell hit.

WavĂ©, i’ll let you in on a little secret.
shaman has tranquil air totem, which does what salvation does, but is only group wide.

we never really needed spirit of the alpha.
all it did was make it so we don’t have to twist wf + tranquil air, which admittedly is a nice qol change, but what i’m trying to say is that we would have been just fine without spirit of the alpha, making the trades between pala and shaman utility to either side even less favorable for horde.

in what world would you want to trade windfury for tank-reverse-salvation when you already got a lesser effective salvation in a totem.
for real.
that is a bad trade.

You are god damn blind aswell lmao, i said on enemies you goon

great, can you use it with a tank in that group? no you cant.

apparently you did, you wouldnt hold aggro off any physical DPS, especially warriors with or without worldbuffs. or against mobs that are fire immune.
and that is just a fact of calculation and common sense, both lacking for you.

again you needed SoA, mobs being immune to either nature or fire did hamper with your threat. And thus it was a better trade for horde than alliance, especially with orc warriors pressing their racial to increase DPS even harder.

basically you have rose tinted goggles on and whatever people say even if true falls on deaf ears. classic horde player btw.

we were talking about friendly dispels because wavé claims cleanse works like abolish poison and poison cleansing totem, read up on the conversation before you comment, goon.

why would you put it in the tank group?
lol, its a pretty simple workaround, see rather than twist tranquil air and wf, you twist agi and wf in the tank grp.

SoD is different yes.
everyone is doing more dps than nax geared ppl in vanilla, which is why more aggro on tanks part is needed, but from a vanilla perspective alpha was never needed.

no such thing as immune mobs.
they got rid of that in phase 2, and that wasn’t because shamans were crying, that was because rogues and warriors were crying.

No, you two were discussing it, i added some info neither of you two knew

do dungeons that have either immune mobs to XYZ element in BRD or all magic except holy in scholomance or active abilities like idk antimagic barrier/shield, deal with these big drake bois in BWL which take somuch less damage from all other schools except 1 which they take like double DPS from, Chromaggus.

Pft, horde use druids for wild strikes, havent been in a raid horde side were any shaman had to use wf

Ah at least now i know i can stop reading this dudes comments for good, man doesnt even know about dispel resists.

How long did it take you? I was done after 3 posts, never seen a more disingenuous poster in here.
And on topic: dispell resists happen often - try playing Paladin and you’ll see :wink:

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