Well…done!
This are some great chances and some of them are very welcome.
Seems you learned from the …past, from BfA mainly, when you released Islands and Warfronts, but you didn’t even want to listen to the community to make changes and…you carried on with bad decisions and implementations.
THIS is the way Blizzard!
I’m a bit in two minds over this. I really struggled the first week with Toghast, until I took a step back and worked out what I was doing wrong. It was me, neither my spec nor my rotation were optimal. I fixed both and had cleared all the available floors each week.
This week I did level 7 before the nerf and it was hard but doable. Then I did level 8 after the nerf. I actually exited and re-entered the instance as I thought I’d gone in on a lower layer things were just melting even with no Anima powers.
For me I miss the challenge and I wish they had gone about balancing this a bit differently. I was learning a lot more about crowd control and interrupts and playing a dps (I normally play as a healer).
I appreciate I’ve been clearing it on a druid which is easy mode. What they should have done is make it clear the dungeon equivalent difficulties for each layer, and buffed the Anima powers for the classes and specs that were having trouble.
This content is supposed to last, by nerfing it so everyone can clear it the first week it’s available the life span is being shortened. I hope the later bits, when they release are nice and challenging and remain as such.
I understand. I only want elites to drop anima cells so there is some sense of achievement.
I love you 
Yeah but now , after the nerf i can finish Layers 8 like i did Layer 6 before nerf. And the thought of going back next week feels fun and not frustrating. So i am good.
I did before the nerf, it was fun … now Torghast is just boring, no challenge even at layer 8 …
I feel the exact reverse.
Something that felt like a challenge and a place to conquer has just turned into a place where I need to spend an hour hoovering stuff up every week.
In that post I write this:
So we return to our triad: Sense of world, sense of community, and sense of danger with good combat. Torghast fail 2 of 3, but it’s only a matter of time before you get the traits that kills that as well.
This update means that Torghast fails 3 out of 3 - it no longer has fun and challenging combat, it’s just a weekly hoover-job.
In my opinion this was a bad move. People wanted to do every floor, and instead of saying “You can do them all if you’re good. If you’re not, you can do them all except 2, and the amount of power you get there is very low anyhow”, they just nerfed the whole thing to the ground.
At this moment I find truly nothing about Torghast enjoyable any more. It had that one thing going for it: The combat made the run difficult, so you needed some coordination, some planning, some looking around the room, understanding the enemies, etc. All this looking around and planning and anticipation on executing a plan based on what I see and hear in the game creates an immersive experience for me. That’s gone now.
I think i will have fun through trying different builds , specs and tact in Torgast every week.
I like the fact that it is like layer 6 before nerf so i can focus on fun stuff inside, and not get frustrated like i did on Layer 8 before nerf.
That’s how I feel too. It’s island expedition’s all over again.
Can you tell us why we didn’t get “The Soulforges” wing this week if its on a set rotation?
So, I went and did torghast on my druid now after it remaining dormant for some time.
I really felt I was in danger pretty much autoattacking the boss down now with the odd moonfire and trash thrown in when I did layer 7. He couldn’t even outdamage ysera’s gift until the stacks started going up.
What a joke. Synod on first encounter at I think it was layer 3? He was far harder than this. I actually DIED on layer 3, repeated amount of times vs synod until I figured out the stacks. Meanwhile I’m standing there on layer 7 now, pretty much autoattacking a boss to death and he can’t outdamage my passive healing.
My death this run was to a trap because I put on autorun when I tabbed out and ran into a trap and died to it while tabbed out.
This changes should be reverted. Yep i’m casual also, but for once. I really like Torghast and his difficulty what was original. Now Layer 3 is EZ mode for baby criers.
But i forgot, main target is now casuals, not people who enjoy the game.
today i started to wonder - maybe the difference in how people percive thorgast is because of some people (me included) noobing out and not realising that in order to make thorgast easier you farm maw and buy permanent upgrades ?
honestly i too didnt know that - and did it all this time without a single one of those -_-
maybe a lot of people did the same mistake as i did …
Torghast sucks. Can’t wait to never have to do it again.
Give us good loot at the end of it !
Who cares if layer 3 is easy? It’s supposed to be. Complain again when layer 8 feels easy on all your alts.
Also how is it in groups now? I did it earlier only few times just to see that we get even 1-shotted by some normal trash abilities… is 20% reduced damage in groups making any difference for you or is solo still the way to go? I have only done layer 8’s solo on 2 characters this week.
On layer 8 start was though, but boss is loot pinata with anima powers.
Thank you. I found and still do find torghast very boring. It feels like diablo.
My general view on shadowlands is there is so much in it and requires many hours a week to stay afloat.
If you like Torghast cool, I absolutely hate this sh!t hole of a game mode, being forced into it just to enjoy the game later on.
Gating items like legendaries shouldnt be done this way. Torsh!t as I call it, should be an optional side thing to do. What a joke this is.
Ngl I rage quit during a run today. I’m glad there’s many who enjoy the game still, but I feel done this time 
not on and off anymore, just off. It’s old, it’s boring, it looks pretty on surface this time but under the hood is the same aged formula. I can get more fun per minute playing basically any other modern game and I’m just too old to not have fun when I make time for it. I also understand raiders and such enjoying new content, but I, basically a casual pvper, can get the fix of competing elsewhere cheaper with better balanced experience.
Sorry for the rant btw, I just felt extremely disappointed today, I love WoW art and music but 
I c a n ‘ t anymore. I can’t justify spending money and time on it. I’m not having fun. Leveling was awesome first time but overall it’s just a polished turd with a bow on top. Lol.