Void elves paladins when?

This is what I’ve said: the void either would destroy the individual or create a war. The light has to purge them completely, but it’s not as easy as with us for example…

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I don’t think she can, personally. She is Undead after all.

Personally, I don’t think this would make sense… They would be something else. I’m not saying that it’s impossible to combine Void and Light in the future, though as of now, it is impossible. But who knows, maybe Blizzard tomorrow says “You know what, thanks to Elune we discovered we can combine Light and Void using the Arcane” or some other explanation they come up with. “Twilight Elves” :laughing:

These are Blood Elves, unfortunately. I say unfortunately because I see that many Blood Elf players don’t actually like their Light theme and their lore.

It is impossible now and will be ten thousand years later. If you combine two things you’ll get a reaction. If you combine two opposite things you’ll get an extreme reaction. It can be the creation of a third material, or one completely disposing the other element in the equation.

But since you’re a disguised “high elf” and not a proper blueberry, I guess anything is possible.

Although, I still say it is ridiculous.

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Only subjectively. Objectively he bleeds purple like any other Void Elf.

Which is why this request irks me. It’s an attempt to extend the favour Blizzard did them by subjectively allowing them to pretend to be high elves to making it an objective reality.

After all, as everyone knows a Void Elf cannot be a Paladin, what are we to make of a Void Elf Paladin, the walking contradiction?

Why, that it must be a high elf after all. And all that has to be changed is the internal consistency of the game’s narrative and everyone else’s understanding of how things work.

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Never! Have a good day!

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A void elf is a vessel of the void, void and light does not go together well.
A paladin unlike the priest is a vessel of the light.
A priest just channel the magic a paladin is literally filled with it.

And unlike a paladin the priest has a spec about the void that spec fits a void elf perfectly would you prefer if the void elf priests only could play Shadow?

A Voidelf is already filled with the void how does it makes sense to have 2 opposites in one body at the same time.
To give a real world example of how this would be like, it would be like having matter and antimatter in the same spot in space and time without anything happening.

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Only one way to make sure :rofl:

Joke aside, I’d love to be able to customise our demon form, or have all the animals my void elf hunter tames to have a voidy tint but that ain’t happening as high elves don’t like blueberry.

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This isn’t true. This is headcanon that many players for some reason keep repeating.

Nowhere in the game or in any book has it ever been stated that Paladins must be infused with the Light. A few of them might be, but the rest of them are literally warriors that use the Light, nothing more.

Still, what is being requested here is a Void Knight class or class skin for Void Elves. Void Elf Light Paladins don’t make sense, at least with current lore.

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Take his void elf outside Stormwind, head left when he sees a Defias cutpurse, she has a stabbing weapon. Allow her to attack him for a bit, every so often he will see a purple blood spurt.

The new customisation options are only skin deep. Part of me even wonders if they are some kind of void based diguise and they are all still genuinely blue underneath, that would be ironic as it would mean the subjective pretense of being a high elf is actually objective, they really are just pretending.

P.S. Demon Form customisation could be an area of future work, much in the same way Druids get new form variants every so often.

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Which comes with it’s own issues, namely it treats wielding the void as being identical to wielding the light (which in itself is antithetical to the lore) and it involves volunteering art team time to create a whole suite of spell effects, not for an entire class, not for an entire race, but a relatively tiny group of people who want to play a particular class on a particular race.

Of Blood and Honor (Chapter 2):

  1. “Archbishop: In the Light, we gather to empower our brother. In its grace, he will be made anew. In its power, he shall educate the masses. In its strength, he shall combat the shadow. And, in its wisdom, he shall lead his brethren to the eternal rewards of paradise.”
  2. “Archbishop: Clerics of the Northshire, if you deem this man worthy, place your blessings upon him.
    One of the clerics comes with a blessed dark blue embroidered stole in his hands, which he placed reverently around Tirion’s neck. Then, he dipped his thumb in a small vial of sacred oil and anointed Tirion’s forehead.”
  3. “Archbishop: Knights of the Silver Hand, if you deem this man worthy, place your blessings upon him.
    Two of the armored men comes, the first laid the warhammer before Tirion’s feet. The second, Saidan Dathrohan, placed the silver plates upon Tirion’s shoulders.”
  4. “Each of the clerics and knights raised their right hands and pointed toward Tirion, empowered him with the holy light.”

Arthas: Rise of the Lich King (Part 1: Chapter 5):

  1. “In the Light, we gather to empower our brother.”
  2. & 3) are similar to the 2) & 3) from above
  3. “Sweat broke out on Arthas’s brow. What was going wrong? Why wasn’t the Light wrapping itself around him in blessing and benediction?”
  • This ceremony is exclusive to the Order of the Silver Hand, which not all Paladins are a part of. There is no evidence to support that other Paladin individuals/races/organizations undergo the same process nor is it explicitly mentioned that it’s needed to become a Paladin.
    This is just a fact. Silver Hand was originally just Humans and Dwarves.
    Draenei became Paladins through the Naaru teaching them about the Light.
    High Elves had Paladins through normal worship of the Light, but briefly lost in after most of them renamed to Blood Elves and had to drain it from Naaru. With the Sunwell restored, the Blood Knights returned to embracing the Light like the originally did.
    Sunwalkers get the Light from basic worship of An’she, which is just a different form of the Draenei worshipping it through the Naaru and Humans/Dwarves through the Light itself.

The first Human Paladins were literally just Warrior + Priest
Tides of Darkness (Chapter 5)

  1. “I will establish a new branch of the Church, the paladins. I have already selected the first candidates for this order. Some were knights before but others were priests. I chose these men for both their piety and their martial prowess. They will be trained, not only in war but in prayer and in healing. And each of these valient fighters will possess both martial and spiritual power, particularly in blessing themselves and other with the strength of the Holy Light.”

And just so you’re aware there is zero statement about the ORIGINAL paladins of the Church, mentioned above, having gone through the ceremony mentioned twice earlier. This implying that the ceremony was created afterwards, and that again it isn’t necessary for one to be a Paladin.

(Posted on behalf of Lore)

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Void Elves don’t really do Light, not without corrupting it.

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I am assuming a lot of us are fans of Star Trek here, it’s a very nerdy thing and we are all nerds so I am guessing there’s a lot of crossover.

Anyways, there’s an episode where the omnipotent Q is turned into a human as a punishment by his peers, stripped of all his powers, and sent to the Enterprise to live the rest of his life as a pitiful human. The Enterprise is involved in a mission to try and stop a moon crashing into a planet. Q maybe without his powers, but he still has his vast intellect, and they ask him how they can stop this runaway moon.

His answer is to change the gravitational constant of the universe. Something which would have an immense impact upon everything else, but is beyond their ability anyway.

Now the reason I bring up this vignette from an old episode of a classic sci-fi television show is that what Q says is pretty analogous to what those who want void elf paladins are saying.

There are those who simply want Void Elf Paladins and when faced with the problem that this is not permitted by lore built up over two decades, casually suggest that the lore be rewritten so they can have what they want OR there are those who are coming up with the entire idea of a void knight class skins, which fails on lore (in that it presumes a void based class would operate identically to a Paladin) and fails on simple economics (it was hard enough getting Blizzard to add customisations for entire races and these players are suggesting a similar level of investment in time and effort for a single race-class combination that currently has a player constituency of zero).

I can understand how they may feel the ask is basic enough but they refuse to appreciate the consequences of that ask upon everyone else’s understanding of the game world.

That, and it feeds the now well entrenched narrative of Void Elf entitlement.

Overall, not a good look or a strong argument.

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Interesting i do not know for sure i got it from Nobbel.

Even if blizzard for some reason chooses to allow this we should be getting the different versions of the none paladins first as they already exists and should be before any void knight shenanigans.

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I’m not sure I follow, could you please explain it a bit further? What do you mean with “different versions of the none paladins”?

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Different animations and looks for say the blood knights the sunwalkers and so on as they are not doing the exact same as the human/dwarf paladin.

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OHHHHHH!!

Yeah, I totally agree with you there. They definitely should get their own spell visuals and animations. 1000% agreed.

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Doesn’t matter, he’s right :rofl:

But again, joke aside: we don’t need them.

But what if they get all spells made void? Violet puddle and all that? Like warlocks can change the color of their spells. In this case to rename too

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He isn’t technically a paladin, I mean he is for gameplay reasons (if you can count the mission table as gameplay), but lore wise he isn’t a paladin, he is just a light infused dreadlord.