i get that all the time. weird really.
its a great idea, and its time has come. like u said, u thought abt it before too.
exactly that.
pretty cool idea, but they would have to place a gardentable nxt to ragnaros, and that would look abit odd…
bringing a huge cannon though, the size of that shammy log they get now… that would be very very cool
all they have to do, is make the ranged attacks runes, and let them be affected by stuns, proc and bleeds from talents, and replace half the strength on plate in gnomer, with intellect to add spellpower to teh blasts
litterally done in an afternoon, for some developer!
AND THAT IS FIXED NOW!
u have a static spellpower with all that intellect, so no need to worry about prepotting, keeping a trashmob alive to generate aso.
u just go HAM
i know u love it. i can see it in those beedy little dranei eyes <3
Why not just have str give spellpower to warriors, or just still have it as attack power since warriors are too dumb to do magic. Like they literally cast spells out of rage.
Again a bit comparable to Warhammer 40K. Orcs, really powerful, but too dumb to realize it.
Can’t name any specific fight, but I do recall some bosses throw random things, just have them carry a large backpack where all these things are are supposedly stored. A visual representation of the bags you have ingame.
Looking at the definitions of the class names outside of world of warcraft does not do any of the classes justice. That would mean that all classes that engage in combat are essentially warriors, and thus your desire would already be fulfilled.
What strength gear? Not all mail have strength stats?
A replacement for what, hunters? Warriors are the only class in the game that are 100% about face-to-face physical melee, which they are meant to be and why many people play them. Taking that away would destroy the variety of the classes.
Blizzards original desired intention of BM hunters was that they would use melee combat next to their pet, just as Rexxar.
Killing low hp players is possible yes, but shoot does neither slow or interrupt anyone or anything. It might punch back the casting progress a bit but it is not an integral part of the warrior class.
So if people roll warrior by mistake and are to lazy to create a new class, we should just alter the fundamentals of the class to fit their desire? If one’s desire was not to play a pure melee class then they should not pick that class. What about the people that want a pure melee class? The best choice is to have a variety of classes that fills specific rolls within the spectrum.
How does this have a place withing the night-elf fantasy/lore that you mentioned earlier?
good question. i guess for the same reason hunters cant just get MAP from agility and not get stacked with strength - its just how the game is. all that spellpower cant come from rage.
also, it would make yr hands shake, and throw off your aim?
but yea, u could add throwing items as well, and have them lit on fire aso, doused in poisons or smthn, to add to the mayham.
Yeah, sadly I doubt it would happen. I’d still want some new fun stuff tho. This is an ability I thought of some time ago and posted in a different topic. I think it’d be neat to just have something fun like this:
Warrior
Throw Friend - Throw a friendly party or raid member within 5y at target location. Causes 10% total HP damage to thrown unit, thrown target takes 10% more damage for 5 sec and increases their resource regeneration by 50% for 30sec. Causes 125% of warriors weapon damage to all enemies within 8yards of target location.
Cooldown 2min.
Costs 5 rage.
Range 21y.
EDIT: Further balance for PvP
Warrior’s Inspiration - Increased resource regeneration by 50% for 30s.
Buff.
Dispellable Magic.
Heroic Sacrifice - Damage taken increased by 10% for 5sec.
Debuff.
Not dispellable.
Heroic Retreat - Dazed for 3sec.
Debuff.
Not Dispellable.
Applied when no targets are hit by the thrown player.
the army chaplan isnt considered a warrior i think…
almost all of it does, as well as leather. there is no option for ranged hunters to stack agility in gnomer loot.
exactly!
the class has no variety and now it gets one. hunters leave that window open for warriors now. i mean, most ppl who made hunters expected to be a ranged class, and have to melee in p2. apparently, thats fine, so i dont see the problem tbh?
wow, u must have been in those designmeetings before the game was built:O
i just played since betatest of vanilla, and i never saw that at all. it released with raptorstrike and wingclip(mongoose came later from BG whiners), and that was it. no intention other than selfdefence.
ofc it does try shooting a hunter thats kiting u with aspect of cheetha. u will see the value then - its sad really, that u and sooo many other people have never got to play this aspect of warriors at all - MORE SO a reason to petition the devs to make it so!
YES! - exactly that
we did it for meleeplayers that ended up picking hunters - so why shouldnt we give this boon to the warriors that envy hunters their freedom and range all the time?
Hi Milyee (she does)
nothing really, ill give u that. but yr argument was that warrior was a spesific thing, and my example of actual warriors all being ranged primarily, stands
IM ALL FOR IT…as long as u are good with the fact that a wooley little mage is next to the ranged warrior, and ure the first thing he grabs…
also a GREAT way to get flagcarrier out of trouble
Dictionary definition of a warrior:
a person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier.
a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics.
I don’t see how hunters are forced to play melee in the next phase. If that was the case they would have been forced to do that outside of sod as well. If this is the case than isn’t that exactly what you want anyways? You want melee class with a few ranged abilites which is what hunters will become in phase 2. So why should we have 2 classes that fills the same role? We will then remove the only class that fills the spot of a dedicated melee. With that perspective we should then give mages and priests melee abilites, or why not just have one class that can be modified in any direction melee/range/cast. All classes should be hybrids.
This is why Rexxar exists to begin with, he is the definition and blizzard’s vision of a beastmaster hunter. Karazhan crypts was also something blizzard had intended to implemented initally, but they are instead doing it now in SOD. Information like this is not contained behind closed doors, and have circulated for years. So what’s your point?
Yes that is a use case. But it is not the shoot ability in itself that causes the slow, but the cheetah ability and the risk of using it in combat. This makes it only viable towards hunters with cheetah for this effect. Against any other class or spell it will have no effect other than providing a small amount of damage. Mages have staffs that can be used to auto-attacking, does this make mages a melee class?
Because what class would fill the roll of a pure melee class? Your desire are more fitting for the hunter class. Do you want warriors to be more effective range classes than hunters?
In what way is the world of warcraft warrior class a primarily ranged class?
no, u prolly dont. i do tho, as ive done the math.
no, i want a ranged warrior, able to fight in melee when hes forced to, but whos damage is almost all from ranged attacks. the plate makes up for the lack of pet, and the intellect on all the plate gives power to the ranged attacks. much like strength does to the melee hunters. i realize this isnt the best for other warriorspecs, but thats ok, they had their moment. its time for a new experience
rogue, feral, hunter, shammy, retri, bear. no, dont think so…
indeed! remove spellpower and intellect, and give them strength too! i want OPTIONS
/spit hordescum /spit
Im a beautiful jumping nelf.
i know, its very sad
which is why we should finally change that! gnometoss and cannonshot for warriors!
they will be, with this. then we will have 1 class that has powerful ranged phys attacks!
alternatively, it would have been hunters, but they need the melee epics now. MS Bis u know, so we are better of changing it up abit, so less players share the same lootable.
i said ranged phys class. so in a week, there is none at all. i dont like casterclasses. i want a ranged warrior, and its about time warrior got a new playstyle
today yea. in a week, they are phys melee with a pet. autoshot cant keep up with double raptor and flanking procs and free iinstant raptors all spammed every 3 sec.
barely have time to cast kill command in there, with the frenzies.
Marksman will be wearing 50% strength, so hes dead as a spec. surv is pvp only. so no, the hunter is no longer phys ranged. he is melee, looking for epic 1h with big numbers and decked out in mail with strengthpots on.
we need the Ranger warrior Temrinator in the ranged spot !! Infact, i BET agrrend will LOVE the idea, i should ask on X shouldnt i?
if by fine, u mean melee is fine, yea prolly
all weapons are hunterweapons now.
no, just the one?
great advice, but i would also like to say that the ranged warrior IS in the fresh air. its a GREAT idea actually. i cant think of a better fit for SoD than ranged warriors that weilds a cannon with massive hastebuffs - i mean … think abt it!!?
teh game needs a ranged phys class, and we will own with bleedprocs off the cannonshots
finally, some love for a creative warrior gameplay <3
You went completely crazy because of the melee hunter. Soon you will be locked in a straitjacket, yelling something about how hunters should use ranged. Another sanity ruined by Blizzard.
