If you have 2 eyes you would know girl boss types are encouraged in wow stories for a long time. Men are either gay or useless mostly. Since Legion.
BfA warbringers, azshara, jaina, sylvanas.
Useless sleeping malfurion who is op but Tyrande sees screentime.
Sylvanas was powered up offscreen dominated every scene for a long time. Until Jailer powerup, of course the male is a bad guy but sylvanas wasn’t 23% of her soul was stolen that was why she was acting evil.
woman good = man bad
Other than that Dragonflight, males are more feminine than females.
I can only say Turalyon who seems as a normal man in warcraft I don’t know about any other.
Briefly, dei encourages women to be in leading roles and for them to be forefront. It is easy to see. Not that I care it is just obvious, I don’t tell you to oppose it or anything I just want you to see the truth
It was good. I’m getting tired of seeing cinematics where it’s mostly people talking, but at least this one had stuff going on.
I highly doubt it would happen. If a character comes first as a giant walking DEI checklist before even being presented as a character, then the writing is very likely to be poor.
On the contrary… Would you rather be us men be constantly the target for “being the evil guy”?
Because so far:
Azshara → Appearend for one or two seasons as villain
Sylvanas → Appeared for two or three DLCs as (part-time) villain (Legion, BfA, Shadowlands)
Jaina → Appeared for two DLC seasons as a (part-time villain) (MoP → Purge of Dalaraan, BfA → Attack on Zandalar/the BfA Intro for Horde to free Talanji)
Xala’tath → Appeared for two DLCs as potentially evil (Legion/BfA) and now is the Villain for TWW/World-Soul Saga so far.
Meanwhile:
Varian → Died for the Alliance in a heroic fashion in Legion
Anduin → Lead the Alliance to end a War (BfA) and broker Peace between Horde and Alliance (multiple times even - see MoP and BfA), was dominated in SL and forced to comit evil acts against his will - basically a “free out of jail card” here - and now will aid us in TWW as a hero once again
Thrall → Aided us in dethroning Garrosh, later on even killed him himself in a Mak’gora, aided the Champions of Azeroth in defending the planet against the Legion (for some time at least iirc), then retired temporarily in BfA only to come back and help Saurfang challenge Sylvanas, then was abducted and helped us defeat Sylvanas in Sanctum of Domination. Then proceeded to serve the people of the Horde and his own kin again.
Interestingly, the females are all villains in some way or another, while the men actually aren’t.
Not saying you are wrong with your opinion. But there is more to it than “females good, males bad”…
Edit: And the last time we had a male “testosterone” villain, it was the badly written Jailer having fancy talks and showing his nips on-screen.
Fyrakk was the last “somewhat decent” male villain we had. Iridikron barely did anything so far other than getting Xala’tath the Dark Heart disk.
Was tried to be written more as a victim and morally grey.
Nothing she did was her own action, 23% of her soul was stolen so it wasn’t her, she wasn’t actually evil.
Jaina was holding hands with horde last time I saw.
we have no idea about her true motivations but yea this might be a villain.
As I said since Legion is the key. Dei started approximately during legion years.
anduin is a weak depiction of masculinity, he cries more than females, surreal and useless character. show me one female character that cried more than Anduin, none. If were to remove him from WoW story today you wouldn’t even see a backlash or any kind of negative response to it.
I don’t really get why people think that Anduin was ever meant to be a depiction of masculinity like Varian. Wasn’t it always implied that Anduin is more emotional empathic than more apathetic like Varian?
Listen, crying is a sign of weakness. Do you know why people cry, when it is kids it is in order to get something they want or they fell and they were hurt so they seek protection and help from someone.
women cry when they are sad or when they seek protection/support of someone, sometimes in order to get away with something.
Men cry when they are powerless and helpless. It is an indicator of low testosteron. When people see a man cry, if it other men they lose respect for him, if it is women that see them the same, there are countless examples of women breaking up with their husbands bfs because they see him cry.
Male tears are despised by majority of people and we find it cringe. It is in our dna. a A prince, successor of a king can’t cry so often, if he does he loses respect and noone cares about him even if it is a fictional character.
Let me show you how real men cry, look at how Anakin cries here, it is a result of emotional turmoil, it is not sobbing it is just a little tear coming out of his eye. This can be respected and won’t be despised because it is a small outburst of regrets and emotional turmoil. Not like Anduin crying in each moment of his screen time.
And how exactly is that bad among friends and allies?
Yeah ok no. I am not reading further than that. This is the greatest BS I have ever read regarding that topic.
You have a serious warped sense of masculinity, buddy. No wonder why so many men these days feel depressed, when they get such expectation as described by yourself thrown at them.
Perhaps it is for the best that the old masculinity is dying in civilian life more and more.
What you describe fits into the military, not regular life and entertainment media.
This cinematic felt like a breath of fresh air after Dragonflight “let all be friends” final cinematics and hollow launch cinematic.
The visuals of Nerubians (both characters and architecure) are pleasing, I am hoping Blizzard would link this “new” Nerubian empire to the old Azhol Nerub of Northrend, perhaps we could learn details about the fall of Anubarak and the Spider War in general? That would be amazing!
To those complaining that Nerubians do not behave like bugs, but like humans, keep in mind that Nerubians are one of the most, if not the most sofisticated insectoid race of Azeroth, they’re highly intelligent and almost all Scourge architecture is actually a Nerubian Archiceture borrowed by the Scourge after they defeated Nerubians after a very difficult war.
Lich King himself admired both their architecture and tenacity of Nerubian warriors.
It’s easy to cherry pick like this, but if you go through the list of the most popular characters methodically, the picture that appears is the opposite of the one you paint here.
I went through the top 20 and found nearly every male character dead or written out. And I would argue Jaina serves as a powerful counterweight to your argument, and several of your statements aren’t every accurate. You vastly undersell the importance of Sylvanas, for example.
Suffice to say, I’m not going to repeat myself and I don’t know if it’s still up, but try doing it yourself. Google top Warcraft characters and go through the list.
But ultimately, none of it matters as long as it’s a cool character, and I am sold on Xal’Atath. What she did here was badass, powerful, and terrifying. She is that whisper in the dark that drives you mad.
but sylvanas wasn’t 23% of her soul was stolen that was why she was acting evil.
