What bothers you the most in pvp

Yup this actually is a thing sadly.

The pacing.
Micro-CCs and micro-snares.

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It was sort of low mmr though so they died within 20 seconds instead of perma denying me to play the game, dodged a bullet there on my lock :rofl:

It’s funny how people say “castermeta”, “meelemeta”. When I watch streams and my high rated friends playing (glad this season already) most of the comps are meele+ranged. From Thunder, Havoc/Ele/R Druid, Havoc/Boomy/H Pala, Unh/BM/Disc, RMD, RLP, Feral/Deva/G
Fisteaver. From meelecleaves you can see TWD with R Sham, Unh/Havoc and 1 Turbo - Loveless. Castercleaves are usually Ele/Warlock (choose spec)/R Druid or Boomy/Warlock/R Shaman or H Pala. Sporadically you will see Deva or Frost mage here and there. It’s neither meele or caster meta. It’s just few meele and few casters being good.

There are both meeles and casters that struggle. FDK, Enha, Survi, SP, Aug (this one I don’t miss). There are also healers who struggle like caster MW or H Priest. These (maybe besides Aug) should get some love.

It’s about popularity. What you’re watching on streams and your friends playing on high rating doesn’t mean much.

Not at all when 80% of all rated pvp players are rival or below. And there’s nothing wrong with that. But the amount of zugging that happens on most ratings is problematic for casters.

If you’re new to rated pvp and wanna play a caster and start spam getting x3 melee in ur shuffle or 3v3 games, u would probably just die. The amount of skill and effort required to survive melee heavy games as caster is a lot higher than that of a melee in any kind of game.

Some casters just need buffs. Or just bring back Precog giving haste. The literal only toxic interaction it had was with Cyclone, it was like 80% of the reason people cried to remove it.

I would prefer to see things get buffed to counteract other things than to just spam nerf different things. Game is more fun when you have scary damage, the enemy also has scary damage. Which one of you can get it off better? That’s more fun than just nerfing everything into the ground to get to the fun 15 minute games where nothing dies

I play a lot of Destruction warlock, I’m not great at it but I’m not bad either. And just spamming instants isn’t enough to win with. At the same time casting Chaos bolts is too hard, even if you get precogs you gotta run instead cause mr warrior and mr windwalker don’t care enough about it and just have a billion reflects and stops anyway

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CC without a doubt.

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how Tanky Warlocks are.
cyclone having no Cooldown.
Frost DK being ignored… in a terrible state, needs a rework.

and more importantly, how Bots are way more popular than people think

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When people dont communicate

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Yeah,casters will cast again when melees will have reduced mobility again
Or you want me to cast 3 second spells with melees on me 100% uptime and 2-3 interrupts each? Lol

Spammable caster & micro CC.

Priest: Purge purge purge purge.

Another thing: It’s just very frustrating to call out dps to burn their defensives on first go and not when they are in execute range. This philosophy is really killing the mood to play the pvp and shuffle shows it clear as a day. By using personals: YES it has been already said in numerous times in PVE raids, most of the pvp players have also raided. The same philosophy still stands today, trade when you are targeted, you have to trade, no question about it. Healers are basicly following the dps defensive cycle.

Fists - Serenity -
UH Frenzy -
Ray of Frost - If not kicked, most mages freeze you to death
Eternity Surge ,Tip of the Scales.

What if a DK doesn’t trade IBF against a Rogue? Well it’s so simple to put together, you are handicapped and trying to find a reason to live. In other words, dead. What if the DK don’t trade AMZ? Well most Rogues are Sub, even if it is Assasination. Anti-Magic Zone absorbs Shadow, Fire, Frost, Poison ( Nature ), Chaos and Holy damage. So it’s really important defensive to use.

The old game philosophy is gone, it doesn’t exist and i think it’s still why people think you will live if you trade at low HP. Nope, times change friends and now it’s fast paced game with instant cd trading. Do i hate it? Hmm, no but i don’t love it either.

These are just examples: It’s not a healer fault in Shuffle that the dps die in 20% hp pool range.

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Game balanced around set bonuses, some classes become gods, others in the dumpster
Rogues the god class all expansion
AWC dominated by rogues
Hunters do like 40% more damage against mages because… why?
Melee mobility, especially demon hunters
As a caster I don’t / cant cast most of the game because Melee are zoom zoom Michael Schumacher.
Why can’t I poly druids? Blizzard stopped caring about unique class mechanics years ago
PvP players always take a back seat to dragonslayers
When classes are clearly broken as hell but stay broken for weeks or months (ret a couple patches ago, demon hunters now, balance druids all expansion, rogues since 2004)

Well and you’re a rogue so your opinion is automatically rejected. :joy:

the fact that you focus on the spec/class im posting, which is what 98% of these forums are doing, says a lot about your IQ (or lack thereof)

Playing against good casters with dozens of cc and mobility in Tol’vir

You have a bunch of games in 2s, 3s and shuffle on 2 speccs and no other characters at least shown in neither check-pvp nor seramate. So you tell me about IQ? :joy:

Resto Druids. Game sucks when they’re good.

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57% of the top rated healers are resto druids

thats a crazy amount… resto druid indeed needs a nerf

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About 70% of my losses in solo shuffle are against resto druids, lmao. They really need to just nerf them to the ground.

I don’t get why people even complain so much about disc priests, against a disc priest I at least stand a decent chance of winning.

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