What Do you think about 9.1.5

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I love it.

On main

Lets me freely swap my covenants on main, so I can help my team unlock dungeon perks no matter what. I can finally play my off-spec with my preferred covenant and legendary. I can gather grateful offerings faster, to unlock the last few mogs I want.

Mission table farming

All my table farmers received 2-3 more followers with the renown 40 boost and the soulbind unlocks. That’s 2-3 more missions I can send out at a time. On top of this, leveling a new table farmer lets me ding max level at high renown, so I can quickly get them to 71 with a calling or two, and unlock even more followers along the line. No need to farm Torghast for followers anymore! Just ding, research the table, and get going! Even better, I can boost all followers to level 30, and progress the table campaign much faster that way.

More gold, more materials, what’s not to love?

Alts

Talking about table farmers: the changes made to Threads of Fate is sweet. It’s finally worth doing those objectives, WQs and side quests, as they’re much more profitable than dungeon spamming.

I can also equip my newly dinged alt in Korthia gear and a 262 legendary within an hour or so of dinging. With the Valor cap gone, I could grind M+ forever and get to ~245-ish ilevel in about a week.

I can also farm Korthia for ~20k research / 10k rep an hour, and upgrade my conduits to max in short order too. Tried that on main, and all my off-spec conduits are 252 too now, and had a few paragon chests too in the process.

Having a +20-ready new character prepared within a week after dinging is sweet.

The Bad

Now, there are a couple of things that could still be improved, like renown being account, or at least covenant-wide, rather than per-char and per-covenant. Would make it far less obnoxious to play multiple covenants. It would be nice if the Box of Many Things was account-wide too.

It would also be nice if we had cross-faction play already, so I could go back to Alliance. But 9.1.5 is a massive improvement as it is, so I’m not gonna complain (much).

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No, you had to be a member of that Covenant to use them. Now they become acc wide when you hit 80 Renown.

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Didfnt think about that:) because i never bought a 6 months pack.

Youre right, if thats the case👍

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heheeh i was drunk :smiley:

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Looking decent. Just some minor annoyances. Like progress on callings or the 1000 anima quest that you lose when you switch covenant. Or the missionboard that stops.

And somehow there is a bug where my 5/9 chapter venthyr campaign char is not getting the 3rd soulbind unlocked, where my never played venthyr chars gets instant all 3 when i go to sinfall.

I am looking forward to have 80 renown on venthyr on my main so i do not have to think about that anymore (like it does not matter what covenant i am when i try to do a calling).

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I’m enjoying it.

I really like the new changes with legendaries and being able to scrap unused ones and get soul Ash back - saves a huge amount of time! (But I’m still too lazy and haven’t upgraded to 262 yet even though I’ve had the item in my bag for ages lol)

Being able to freely swap between covenant is pretty decent and it’s good you can automatically get the first 40 renown - think by the time you’ve done the covenant campaign you sit around 60 odd which is quite neat.

I’m having fun :slight_smile:

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The gameplay is the same. Nothing changed for me there.
I do get to use my transmog more now, which is nice. Currently working on getting the 4 covenants to Renown 80. Probably about a week to go (could do it sooner, but that would require me to spam dungeons, BGs or Torghast - and I simply don’t want to do that).

Then? I dunno. I guess I’m ‘done’ then. So yeah… I want that 9.2 PTR up asap to give me a sense of what’s coming up.

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Fixed the expansion

Complained about doing 50-60 runs with 0 loot so the valor doesn’t matter? Kinda fixed by adding 210 gear for 500 valor!

Complained that valor cap is the size of a peanut, cap removed! \o/

& we got nice quality of life things like sending anima between alts

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Just get one? It’s literally a free app.

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i’m having a hard time finding anything “new” apart from the covenant swap (Which should’ve been in the Expac since launch), and i guess having some new Character customization for races i don’t play is nice, if i ever get around to them.

All in all, it’s the most lackluster .5 patch “For me personally” through my WoW career

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Well, than dont play any mmo”if all al trash” special snowflake u are

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I resubbed back after a nearly one year break from wow.
Resubbing decision was partially influenced by the patch 9.1.5 and partially because of improvements to the game since 9.0.

I enjoy the more relaxed gearing options available to my character (korth upgrades, cheaper ah prices) and more relaxed gameplay which suits me much better then the continuous feel of a grinding cycle that was at the beginning of the SL.
My main is obviously far behind everyone in terms of gear/renown etc but I found out it doesn’t bother me that much as before anymore and actually doesn’t influence what I can do in the game that I enjoy.
I login when I want to do some convenant campaign progress, drop to some lfr/low m+ and enjoy the views of SL which are quite pretty after all.
As a player with not a lot of time I really appreciate the fact that my characters equipment is more or less applicable to all specs of my character, yes it maybe isn’t optimized but with how far behind the curve I am it doesn’t matter anyway so I can freely try different playstyles each day and enjoy the fluent and different combat style that wow is really good at now on all 3 specs.

I am looking forward to do some normal or heroic level raiding eventually and level up some of my alts knowing that what I am doing on my main character will get me a jump start on my alts too which is a great time saver for me.

It seems that coming back to wow after a while and enjoying the catchups is much better for myself then trying to keep up with the flow and ending up disappointed and frustrated as my RL time doesn’t allow for that.

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Pros:

  • Transmog available on all toons regardless of covenant
  • Easy Covenant Swap, with catch up (I’ve already used it a few times).
  • Can farm as much Valor as I want :smiley:
  • LFG seems a lot better for some reason (can’t think why).
  • My Nightborne now looks even more awesome. In fact, I’ve switched it from Shadow spec so I can actually see what it looks like.

Cons:

  • Having to catch up again when switching Covenant
  • Transmogs are account wide, but Achievements aren’t (Path of Ascension). Tbh, all Covenant unlocks should be account wide.
  • Korthia Meta-Achievement rewards a boring Re-color mount, rather than a unique mount (like Nazjatar).
  • They skipped the opportunity to put Broker transmog into the game.
  • Transmog drops are too low.
  • Gnomes are still part of the game.

Overall a good filler patch. I understand a lot of players have been upset with lack of content (as I was going from 9.0 into 9.1), but I’ve only been playing again for a month, so I’ve still got plenty to do.

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Maybe I can somehow find motivation to experience 9.1.5, but it just feels like there was a nice candy at the start of SL that we could never get it, and we now got that candy 1year later when it’s rotted and lost all its taste.

The sad part is that most of these upgrades we needed at the start of x-pac, not now. I would just rather finished xpac they way it was. Ya cool we can swap covenants, have no soul ash/cinder weekly cap, but this should’ve been from the start, or at least when top100 mythic race was over.

It just shows the sad reallity of Blizzard and how they don’t care about their customers.

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Why the anger?
I’m specifically speaking about

  • Renown farm
  • A* power farm
  • Legendary base items
  • Soul ash farm
  • Conduit farm

If you consider these things as anything else then a hamsterwheel power to you, I don’t like any one of them and see them for what they are; a way for the developers to brush the performance of the game under the rug of metrics and engagement numbers

RP and RP alone keeps me subbed. Other players contributions and interactions to the game are way more fun then whatever the devs keep developing.

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Unless you’re pushing for high-end content, there’s absolutely no need to farm renown. Catchup comes naturally from pretty much any content you play.

Anima ain’t tied to player power, you can safely ignore it, unless you want transmogs or w/e. You can also just play whatever content you fancy, and have some anima trickle in passively.

Players asked for professions being relevant. They made it relevant.

Now, leveling the base items is atrocious, indeed. That’s why I let others do that, and I buy it off the AH. Gold is so trivial to come by that not even an expensive legendary will make a dent into my profits.

Depending on the level of content you do, and on how much you want to min-max your character, you can get an R4 legendary in about an hour, and never set foot in Torghast again. Or if you’re not doing anything higher than +15s or LFR/normal raids, you can just ignore it and not have a legendary at all.

Haven’t farmed them on any of my characters. I obtained them by playing the content I like. The only thing I farmed was Korthia, because I had fun doing so. In S1, I didn’t bother upgrading my conduits, nor had any sockets. Didn’t matter.

So all of these things are stuff you can ignore, and still play the game at a reasonable level. You can do them, but you really do not have to.

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I think it being the patch that fixes Shadowlands to a degree shows they are starting to listen, but in no way does it make up for the fact it should have been what Shadowlands was in 9.0.

The feedback they are acting on for 9.1.5 was delivered in beta.

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I don’t do that because while I enjoy the regular bread and butter of pve and pvp (dungeons, BG’s mostly, raids if I had a large enough community for it) I don’t feel like all the above mentioned things are worth suffering to get there.

Trust me I have, this is my main and I have 0 upgrades and can also afford 0 upgrades.

They didn’t, legendary base items is at best a way to artificially keep it alive.
I was in a M3 with guildies because one dinged max recently and we figured why not get him through, he had a caster off-hand dagger of sub ilvl 100, highest physdamage dagger he had tho for the offhand.
I told him it’s cool and I’ll BS him a level 60 weapon with the crafters mark 2, only to find out you can’t use those to create ilvl 168 weapons (which even in 9.0 was entry level), while you can do that with the armour.
Professions are laughable, the legendary system is the single only thing that keeps crafting professions afloat, there is nothing in those crafting professions except for the legendary items, nearly everything else is trash with the exception of that one ilvl 230 unique equiped bone they tossed to crafters in 9.1
(I have a lot of grievances with how they did professions professions)

I exclusively use gold to transmog, roughly 1.5k a day (haha roleplay) Gold comes in when I do content, which honestly I barely do, if I’m online I’d rather be roleplaying, if I’m online and there is no roleplay, I’d rather log off and play a different game entirely (which is what I do.) What gold I lose in transmogs I earn back with transmog runs, I do have goals in the game, none of them are however related to shadowlands.

I’m admittedly unreasonably unwilling to step into Torghast, I thought the 9.1 direction was the wrong direction to go and I simply do not wish to expose myself to the same system they tried to make work in 8.3

Me neither, most of mine are sub 200 to this day. Korthia I only did as far as the flying skill and honestly I’m never in the shadowlands zones so even that

You can cherrypick but trust me when you avoid all those things all you have is an empty character that’s not good for anything but just standing there and looking pretty (hurray roleplay)
It’s just too many hamsterwheels for a too long extended period of time (BFA for me)

It’s a bit of a long post but that usually happens with these point lists, eh

On a positive note I do like the allied races costumizations, I just don’t main them

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I haven’t bothered to log in to patch 9.1.5 since it launched. I’ll log in today as I have a raid, but none of the changes are of interest to me so there’s nothing to excite me. Maybe I’ll give my Nightborne characters slanty eyes and hand glows, but that’s about it. Which is pretty sad, tbh.

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Aggrovated that its the races with some of the must flexibility getting customisation/ fan service but i gusss i can look past it as I’m happy how alt friendly the initial gearing process is now

Disappointed we didn’t get more race and class combinations