I follow that saga since mystic quest and the first final fantasy played and learned japaneese in order to do them and i still prefer ff6 and ff 8 story over ff 7 , if anything ff7 remake is better than the original version because sephiroth break the four wall and know he had already existed and lost and won’t allow the same things to happen and sadly aerith konw no matter what she will die again 
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I love how one particular person in this thread made a negative comment about that person, yet they are so active on forum and have NEVER wrote a short reply. They always write essays after quoting short replies and that irks me more than “spam”.
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keep the Twiluna memes coming please. 
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okay then.
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“Angst you say, you think you know Angst…you merely adopted Angst…”
But no, I more meant the presentation of the villain. It’s a Final Fantasy game, everyone is a bloody teenager because of the weird fetishization of youth. Even Cid doesn’t look like an old man, I think it is a cultural thing, because in all other regards, people in Japan are expected to behave in certain ways dependent upon their age? Which is in itself a bit weird…(a friend of mine, about the same age as me who is now naturalised Japanese finds it -really- weird, in a nice, but weird way) I more meant the way that Sephiroth as villain was used in the story, which wasn’t actually that vastly different to how Arthas was in WotLK, he shows up now and then, does some stuff, then finally you confront him. With Sephiroth, he had a theme tune. And lets be honest, it was a good one by the gaming standards of the time. It was proper bad guy music. I mean the orchestral, not that ‘one winged angel nonsense’.
I think I covered that one already…
Nope. He has acted as the moral compass the Horde lacked until Thrall was persuaded to return. It is ironic that you refer to teenage angst, as that is the kind of Sylvanas fan boy attitude. Lor’themar kind of got it right, when he said Baine was ‘the best of us’, and to be honest it sounded like he meant the Alliance leaders as well as the Horde ones! 
Oh that is easy, she is a horribly written, senseless mess of a character who could only be more of a pantomime villain if she had a moustache to twirl whilst tying someone to train tracks. Her machinations have all the complexity of a sixth form goth ‘poet’ who makes people cry by listening to their music and draws pictures of women with daggers in their eyes and can’t understand why they are different from everyone else, whilst not realising that -everyone- is different from everyone else!'.
And apparently Sin’dorei find her really repellent and ugly. Just saying. Oh, and she has cracked skin like a snake shedding around her lips and eyes. I bet a lot of her more …eclectic…fans don’t remember that fact, or that their…attentions would get them arrested in most countries, given the fact that she is a dead body… 
Grrr! Down with this sort of thing! Whatever it is!
I kinda feel that way about those types… you know the ones, “Too many words, I didn’t read it”. And you just think…'Whatever your nation’s education system is like, it was wasted on you, they should have given you a mop, and simple instructions with very few words like ‘Mop Floor Now’ with a TL:DR of ‘Mop’ and left them to it for the rest of their lives.
Instant someone goes “Lots of words make brain hurt” I kind of just think, “Well clearly your opinion is not going to be worth hearing if you can’t be bothered to read, so be off with you, scamp…”
Anyway, Twiluna is in it’s underground lair, of the drowned city of Rl’yeh, awaiting the Call of…oh no, hang on, that’s actually Cthulu. Twiluna is in the -other- underground lair, which has a monorail, and lots of evil minions in jumpsuits. That’s the one.
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oh my god, i love it, that made me laugh, thanks.
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You monsters waving your tl3. Twiluna wouldn’t approve!
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i like final fantasy 9 best personally…
haven’t really paid enough attention to the lore to answer the other questions.
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I feel like I shouldn’t have to clarify this, but my previous reply to yours wasn’t serious. None of the topics I mentioned were topics I felt the need to discuss. It was more of an intentional nudge away from discussing these sort of things.
I felt like it was quite obvious, but given how emotional you got about the Baine / Sylvie topics, apparently it wasn’t, so I’ll clarify it right here.
ff9 is such a gem. its my favourite final fantasy game, ever.
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This implies that -any- of my posts should ever be read with anything other than mild sarcasm in mind. It’s kind of my default setting. Unless you’re number 1 on the dial “I Love you” or number 10 on the dial “I would enjoy watching you die” Everybody else gets the 2-9 on the dial, which ranges from affectionate mockery, to mockery, to mockery I can get away with, without a ban.
I am hardly a serious person. I mean I once had to fight off two badger sex assassins, and slept in a bin, on the same night. I totally got that the questions weren’t serious! No fret!
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Gotcha! Cheers then. Although I do have several questions about the badgers… 
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I don’t even know how to start with it…I was an NPC at a LARP event, the players had good reason to hate my NPC, so decided to kill me. Which is all cool and groovy, (It took a whole day longer than I expected!) So I get invited, by a suave chap, to go and watch nature in due course. The exact words being “Viktor, You are a man of the world aye?” “Ja, I have seen many things” “Have yeh ever seen two badgers having sex?” Now at this point, you have to understand, LARP is actually a lot of acting, so I’m trying to keep a straight face. “Nein, I have never seen such a thing” “Well tonight’s your lucky night, Viktor, come with me”
Obviously me as a person is going “Thank gods, they’re finally going to kill this NPC, they were supposed to have figured out he was a wrong 'un four hours ago” The other part is going “I Can’t wait to see where this crazy train is going, I’m so going with it…”
All the while I’m getting this really natural advice from the fella who was luring me to this place “You might see a bit of pink, and animalistic passion, but they’re Badger’s Viktor, it’s nature’s way”
Now thing is, these guys actually were members of the Faction I ran, I just happened to be NPC’ing that one time. So I know what they’re like.
Or thought I did.
Rounds the corner, into the most dimly lit, assassin-friendly area, to see two grown adult men, naked, painted like badgers, simulating sex over a firepit.
I thought I had seen it all. and that’s when the moment struck. This -was- an assassination, so they had to absolutely catch me off guard. For the first second I was just still trying to process the fact of the smooth talking guide shanking me in the ribs, with two…gentlemen painted as Badger’s running at me both armed with swords.
To my credit, I drew sword and downed one of them, but between laughter and being outnumbered I got jobbed pretty quick.
It was just bloody weird…hilarious, but weird.
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OMG! I think I need a new keyboard now 
And a new cup of coffee
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Now I understand what LARP is - I now have some very disturbing images in my head involving humans painted as badgers. I need more coffee and a lie down in a dark room 
LARP is real life goldshire 
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It’s not that bad…hence the fact that I was more kind of “Holy…have those, are they Naked but Painted?” as the sword blows rocked in. Even at LARP, that is -not- what you expect! I legit expected to be assassinated, because that was the -point- of the NPC, they job him and found information on his corpse. It was getting to the point where he had not been shivved for so long despite the clues being there, that I was like, "Oh, Maybe the character just has a heart attack and keels over in a really well lit and public area, clutching his heart which happens to be exactly where the incriminating documents are kept in his pocket.
I was expecting, nay, hoping, for the assassination. I wasn’t expecting two grown men to have stripped naked and painted themselves as badgers, running at me, helicoptering, (as a chap will whilst naked and running will naturally do) with swords, and their co-conspirator to be shivving me up in the back.
As anyone who has been to a three to four day long festival of thousands of people with limited facilities can tell you…Naaah it ain’t. Because without getting technical, unless your other half is also a LARPer at the event then everyone is a bit…‘ripe’ smelling shall we say, after a few days (Unless, you’re a smart Elf type, who as well as packing their prosthetic ears, also packs some deodorant! ) 
Generally LARP is best described thus.
It’s Prison.
Everyone is there for a set period of time. Everyone is in clothes they would not normally wear. Every block/faction/nation, has a Daddy/Mommy, Snitches get Stitches, Everyone knows a guy who can get hooky booze, if you want to survive, always carry your ‘tool’, the toilet blocks are a dangerous place to visit alone (Though at LARP this is for a less X-Rated version than most Prisons) and towards the end of your period of stay, cigarettes do indeed become currency. Also, almost everyone is a repeat offender.
The similarities are astounding…
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My queen will set you free <3
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