Why complaining about Shamans?

They are dominant because people always switch to that seasonally best spec. It’s the community, ok. More news at 20:00 :stuck_out_tongue:

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Its an all kind of debuff atm but np. I said to change magic debuff only so totem wont work on it.

We need broken trinkets, beside broken specs. What is the point of having 20 trinkets if they are all the same? Different icon and the tooltip?

Wow, i am soo blown away… someone please help me get up.

Nah.

You don’t see a sudden surge of people new to resto druids soaring through the keys to higher keys when they’re the meta, because it’s too hard to play for most people if trying to do higher keys.

Most people that go resto druid because it’s meta get stuck on lower keys because they can’t heal with it. Too complex.

The only time any other healer has been this strong while being so easy to play was SL season 4 holy priest, which also caused a massive surge of people new to it soaring through keys. Then they abandoned it when it got nerfed.

Didn’t druid dominated pretty much entire BFA?

Not like this.

It was still easy to get invites as a holy priest compared to now.

How exactly is Resto Druid super complex? It’s been pretty straight forward since the dawn of time. It just requires some knowledge of the fights and damage spikes.

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Yet you refused to invite shammies to anything over +10

When people switched to holy priest like in season 4 of SL, it allowed a massive amount of mistakes to be done because you don’t notice it until you’re oom or you pay attention to your mana usage and compare it to a holy priest that’s playing well, you could still spam heals with flash heal nd it keeping people alive reasonably well - until you go oom. Then you wiped.

When people switched to resto druid in season 1 of DF, you ran the risk of getting walled at bosses with healing checks because they didn’t know how to handle that as a resto druid, you just died when the damage happened. I had a ton of keys fail due to resto druid rerollers. I barely bricked any keys due to holy priest rerollers in SL s4 when I played DPS, because they were more forgiving to play, people weren’t instantly dead if you screwed up the healing by not weaving heals & holy words, you just went oom in a longer fight, which was only noticeable once you went higher and the fights actually lasted a while.

Resto shaman right now is much like sl season 4 holy priest - it allows a massive amount of mistakes to be done before you’re punished for it. It’s not healthy for the game to have a healer be that strong, it wasn’t healthy for the game for holy priest to be that strong in season 4 of SL either. You can’t buff all healers to be at the outliers level, that will just power creep everything, so they have to nerf the outlier.

The Op is defending Rshams

He s Dpriest, litteraly A+ heal tier

Like, :dracthyr_crylaugh:

I mean, what do you expect? That group, which is more likely to be opt for Shaman, will take a Holy Priest? If they missing a BL, kicks or CC → Shaman is better. Or you expect PPL in PUGS make not optimal decisions for their experience?

But they already announce some small tunings for healers and nerfed some dungeons several times for better experience. It’s still not enough, but a good starting point. We also receiving big nerf for NW next reset and i expect more changes next month in terms of class tuning.

Nope, it’s not how it works. PPL will find another meta-spec and almost nothing will change for non-meta specs. Maybe shaman will have some nerfs NEXT SEASON, cause dungeon pool will be different. And again, check any HPS or DPS rankings for this season in M+. Shaman is a bit above average in HPS and middle one in DPS, not greatest one.

People have no clue how this game works. That should be obvious from most of the comments in any thread.

I can’t properly heal a high grim batol without someone who can dispel curse. Whacking shamans won’t change that.

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Have you ever tried to push as a Disc priest in PUGS? I mean, Discipline is decent in organized group, but not in PUGS. Try it yourself if you dont believe me, because you need to have a good understanding of damage windows and dungeons in general, before you git good as Disc.

It’s not reactive gameplay, like most other healers, because you need to predict a lot of things and prevent them via cooldowns and attonements ready.

So Discipline is decent for experienced players and hell on earth for anyone, who just started healing.

I never agreed to this.

And they could have nerfed it mid-season… OK… but then revert those changes later on with a new dungeon pool with organized dispels.

Instead they gutted the ability and just left it as it is for 4 seasons in a row…

Nerf what exactly ? I mean… you sound like a broken record at this point Elahra. Its not shaman. Its the dungeons.

And if they don’t change this, next season with 3/4 WW dungeons with diseases I expect you to be advocating for the same thing… when RShaman stops being “OP” because we cant dispel diseases and you can.

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Agree.
And btw it’s private profile with no achievements at all. Cant even find this person on raider io, so probably you are right.
It’s a broken record, who cant adapt for current season and spent most of the time spamming “nerf shamans” on forum, instead of playing the game or finding stable party for holy priest.

Resto druids provide a curse and poison dispel, same as shaman.

Why are resto druids not invited if it’s the debuffs in the dungeons?

Because RShamans provide slightly more HPS than RDruids. Nerf RShmans and RDruids will be meta once again. It still proves my point : The meta right now is who can dispell what. So Priests (Holy or Disc) will not be taken either way. Regardless of how much you nerf RShaman or RDruid.

Or WORSE still… Ele/Enh will take a DD spot, and now you will have 3 fixed DDs (right now only 2 are fixed in the meta: Aug+DK). Once you do that, then you take PEvoker (if Aug is preplaced) or HPala (if Aug stays). Both of which heal more HPS wise than RShaman.

And because you have 3 fixed DDs, now the healer is even MORE fixed and dominant than what RShaman is. Like in S4 of DF with RDruid.

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Does druid have PARTY-WISE poison dispel on 45s cd? And btw, he can instantly reset it every 3 minutes, back to back.

Does druid have lowest CD range kick? Or maybe BL?

Really? No difference?

Yes, they do. They have a 15 sec cd kick and it doesn’t require them to be in melee to be used, unlike holy paladins rebuke.

The only healer without an interrupt is priest.

You mean Bash?
It’s not “ranged”, it’s “charge” and you need to change form back to back. And sometimes it’s enough for some things to go wrong.
It’s not the same and in good comps you already have melee kicks (DK\Pala\War…).