nice song dude
Yeah its not like they have alot of defensive utility… lol
You literally replied to this, hence my reply to you.
Keyword is specially 
Imagine thinking hunter is the best class when mage and lock exists.
Grovi said they have little Survivability, you replies with a bunch of spells to show otherwise, I explained to you how several of those spells are little to non-effective as means of survivability, I don’t get the confusion.
Grovi said that hunters do not have much beside dps, that is why I have mentioned certain abilities. He also said hunters especially lack survivalablity, to which I mentioned other abilities.
The main arguement was that hunters don’t have anything beside dps, not that hunters lack survivalability.
Fair enough then
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I feel like i worded myself very poorly
I ment survivabillity for the most part, but also utillity to some degree
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They where good in season 4 yes…
But the only top tier i see in raiding is mage always and rogs in M+…
You deliberately skipped them or you just missed them? I wonder…
Moaning about hunter when you could be complaining about ret or ww monk or sub rogue or arcane mage or unholy dk or s-priest or destro lock
smh
mms does finally hit hard tho I agree there yes
You can never go wrong with these honestly. They were strong in every expansion.
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They are always a good choice to have, they are the only Rdps that can move and DPS, they have an immunity, a metric ton of utility but still they are not as broken as mages+rogs in any way
I was referring to mages and rogues.
Sorry my bad!
But still you cant go wrong with hunters as well, for reasons stated above.
Uh, no?
10chars
Uh, yes?
Deterrence was changed to a pseudo immunity in wotlk and worked that way until it got became aspect of the turtle in legion.
It gave you 100% parry and spell deflect. It was not an immunity. So many hunters thought they were safe in PvP when they went low and popped it, only for any rogue with a clue vanish and cheap shot them, because you couldn’t parry attacks from stealth so it went right through deterrence and you can’t parry when stunned, so the hunter just fell over dead. Or you just shadowstepped or jumped behind them and kidney shot them and got the same effect, because they couldn’t parry attacks from behind.
So it’s a pseudo immunity that works as an immunity in most cases, kinda like still being able to take dot damage while in aspect of the turtle, for example.
No, it was not an immunity. It got closer to what could be called an immunity with cataclysm but that’s not wotlk and you could still hit them in it in cataclysm up until 4.1.