Then you went a bit too far. Try again.
You already do exactly that, I thought you liked it.
It’s not proven, else you wouldn’t show me a video. In your mind you lose to Rogues whatever you do so you ought as well use that loss to prove your point.
But you can’t because it is a lie.
Yeah or simply CC, which you are unable to do as well. Sad gameplay
They didn’t in your video so that’s not your issue yet.
L2p issue dgsht
L2p issue still dgsht
Healer prevented him from restealthing though.
I used spectral sight maybe 2 seconds after match start.
It’s proven for me because I saw it myself. I don’t care if you believe or not.
Yes I’m unable to foresee the future, sorry about that.
Still no proof that it happened on Tol’viron : a lie.
And everything you’ve shown us claiming you did it right was, in fact, done wrong. That might just be included.
Pressing Imprison after you unsteakth the Rogue does not require seeing the future.
You can just try it yourself and you’ll see. Either sprint from the start, or even better - nf teleport forward → stealth → sprint, or: have your mate run forward on mount, then shadowstep to hm and sprint from there. If it’s mage it can even blink forward, then you shadowstep on him and then shadowstep on them (not sure if sprint will even be needed).
You can basically setup a go right in their starting location.
Because there isn’t a way to do something ‘right’ vs classes that have enought toolkit to counter your every move. The best bet is to pray and hope they’ll do 9999999999999 mistakes to finally lose.
The Rogue in your clip was Venthyr. Also if he uses NF forward you see him since he can’t do it in stealth, a good cue to use VR or instant sight into incap. Brains.
Counter every of your bad moves, mister unsuccessful Rogue player.
How was I supposed to know that before I used sight?
What if he instantly goes to stealth after blink?
Counter any possible move in existence (unless they are bad).
Because GCD is a thing
Actually no, I don’t know if stealth is on gcd.
Regardless, you will see the soulshape anyway.
Considering how broken everything else about rogue is - it’s ikely not.
Idk. I’ve never seem them doing it yet, however why would I see anything if he makes a macro that will stealth him immediately after? At best I’d hear soulshape sound far away maybe (and then it will be too late because sight IS on gcd and by time my gcd ends I’ll be sapped already and can just /afk).
Well, since he didn’t use the NF blink when gates opened you didn’t have to worry about it.
Instantly press VR or Sight Incap on the GCD of Soulshape if it worries you so much. It is on the GCD.
Well since your existence seems full of bad moves yes.
Stealth isn’t, but has a 2s CD itself. But because Soulshape is on GCD thr Rogue can’t blinks stealth step sap, because both blink and sap are on the GCD.
This guy just needs 5s of reaction time.
Because stealth has a CD so either thr Rofur is in stealth, leave stealth to blink and can’t stealth yet because of the CD, so you see it, or the Rogue is not in stealth, so you see him, then he presses Soulshape and even if he stealthes upon arrival you will see the big blue flashy sparky dust and the spectral form, because that is how the animation works. Provided you can open your eyes.
Too bad that you are definitely not a rogue and don’t have a rogue to try this yourself in a skirmish and report back with evidence. Sad!
What if he did but I didn’t hear it’s sound because it was too far or network lag? And I don’t have this alert enabled in gsa2 (even then it wouldn’t be guaranteed to notice it that early and that far).
Yes, IF I see it.
Do the math. He uses gcd for soulshape → I need some time to react + network lag, maybe 150ms? → I use gcd for sight → he’s already in stealth (because it’s not on gcd) and shadowsteps to me (also not on gcd) → as soon as his gcd comes up (150ms earlier than mine) he saps me, GG. I’ll see him coming but unable to do anything while waiting for gcd.
Yeah he needs 2gcd, but so do I + I’ll need time to react (150ms) while he won’t so shadowstep-sap will come after I use sight but before I can do anything else.
Even with 0ms reaction network lag alone would guarantee success of shadowstep-sap.
My reaction is 177ms btw (based on tests), and there was 40ms network/display lag so around 120ms. Doesn’t help at all vs cheaters.
Never liked that scummy class. No person with morals or honor would ever play it.
Then just open your eyes and you will see the soulshape.
If you do not see the spells enemy use the blame is on you for not paying attention. It is a big factor in you losing games actually.
No, that is if you so dumb. If Blink really puts him in range of step sap then the moment he blinks you use VR and woah he is no longer in range when you get your GCDs back so you can use Sight and get combat, or incap ! Amazing ! Who would have thought using spells adequately depending on the situation would change things? Not Anooraz !
The matter is which GCDs you choose. If you choose to use Sight while he is ALREADY in range instead of using the one spell that would put you out of reach, it is a bad decision.
Just use your brain please, it is a wonderful asset when it is turned on.
If it’s instantly stealthed behind some obstacle like wall/pillar - I won’t, at best I’ll hear sound (but not guaranteed).
If it’s on other side of arena behind obstacle - there is no way to see it without using some wallhack. And by the moment I even target rogue he’ll be long gone (instant soulshape->stealth).
I’ll try it but I have doubts. Rogues always have something to pull out of sleeve.
Yeah but how will I know anything without using sight? Are you trolling here? First GCD is always sight (unless you want me to randomly felrush/eyebeam across the arena, lol).
If he soulshapes towards you from the gates opening, which is what you argue about, then it is open field, not behind an obstacle or a pillar, so you see it. If he is behind a pillar after soulshape and then goes stealth he can’t blink to you anymore.
Nice try.
If he soulshapes towards you from the gates opening, which is what you argue about, then it is open field, not behind an obstacle or a pillar, so you see it. If he is behind a pillar after soulshape and then goes stealth he can’t blink to you anymore.
Nice try.
Well you have doubts against tactics that work up until high rating while you are yourself a low rating, so what can we say.
If he instantly uses Soulshape when the gates open you see it without Sight as he can’t press it in stealth, so maybe then the first reaction shouldn’t be Sight. That is called adapting to what people do. And if you already pressed the same time he pressed Soulshape, so tight when gates opened, then you will be able to incap before he can Sap because Sight is already up and he isn’t quite in range already. There is no map small enough that Soulshape + step instantly takes you to the other box. Just look at the range on the tooltips.
How about that map with that square stuff at the center? Ultra-convenient for rogues.
1.9k is higher than average and higher than median.
Nice try.
If he macros it like /use Soulshape ; /use Stealth then everything will happen instantly and I’ll see maybe 1ms ‘animation’ before he’s invisible (so less than monitor’s refresh rate and less than one frame is rendered (I don’t have 1000FPS in wow), not even to mention network lag). At best I’ll hear soulshape sound but even that not guaranteed.
Also, how about this:
mage double-blinks and rogue shadowsteps on him in stealth, then he won’t even need soulshape. And mage can blink while invisible, no?
I mean its q hard for him playing dh so He cant be good anyway
They can’t step to you if an obstacle is in the way. Also your video wasn’t on this map.
No. Whether you like it or not the animation perists a bit, there is a blue white flashy line and some sort of white sparky explosion where the blink lands, EVEN if the guy who blinked goes invisible.
No, he can’t. So your scenario is plain stupid.
If you ever face a team who actually does this and depletes their entire mobility within 2s before combat starts, well first, show us, and second, you would have zero excuse to lose. You just just mage, priest purges the shield and dispels poly, the Mage cannot escape you, you win. Your mobility is enough to follow a soulshape which will be his only option and will prevent him from casting anything else while it is up.
Losing that would be trolling very hard.
See, you’re clueless about the game but you talk without even doing basic research and inevitably reach wrong conclusions.
You may not blink while invis as fire mage. It will cancel it.