Oh, Bombing -civilians!- That’s different, Sorry, I was talking about bombing Theramore, which is a clearly Military target.
I don’t know, the two somehow seem inseparable. The city and its inhabitants. Unless you were bombing a city with an identical name?
That is a deeply unhappy fact of War. Trust me, I lived in a city that was subject to such. It happens.
And I witnessed a bombing myself. I am Serbian, you know.
Literally the first sentence on Wowpedia says that it is a city, with enough sources to back up that claim. The way settlements and the world in general are depicted in-game is always flawed, and by now people should know that.
I know, I quested in the Southern Barrens numerous times. But that’s not the issue, if you’ve read my post you would’ve noted that I acknowledged this already.
Well, hgere’s a tip: read the books. I know that the game stated otherwise, and the war following the Ashenvale invasions is very messy in terms of lore, but the Chronicles state that the Alliance got angry after Ashenvale.
Good, we can agree on this.
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Never said that.
And my line was about said actions clashing with what our RL perspective considers morally reprehensible.
Judging said act within the moral standards of a fantasy world with zombies, cannibal races, and the likes of orcs, and shouldn’t be that of a big deal.
Specially if the attack itself was intended in such way that it targeted military casualties, and gave civilians ample room to escape.
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Well, no, I did not know, and had no way of knowing. But yes, that must have been horrific. I had the same panic when the army came and evacuated our street because the Irish had planted a bomb, and then again ten years later, when an unexploded German bomb was reported to be in our local chip shop (I wish I was joking). Its scary. It is. Because Bombs are Impersonal, they do not -care- who you are, they will just kill you. Still. Theramore was a legitimate target. Just the same as Coventry was. Doesn’t stop it being scary, does make it a legitimate target.
Really? Somehow, the book told me that just one ship with kids managed to escape.
Screw the world were civilians are valid military targets.
Let’s just say it is about as bad as the A-bombs in Japan, potentially with the added villainy of actively aiming to kill civilians.
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Horde apologists should be happy with TRAITER Baine, who made sure that the Horde apologists still have some ground to argue that Theramore was not a war crime because no civilians were present.
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That is 100% -not- What I was saying. At All.
War crimes said it was in the Warcraft universe, real life has nothing to do with that nor takes that away.
And you coming up with excuses as to why it was valid doesn’t take away from the fact it was a warcrime.
No, you are basing your argumentation on Theramore having no civilians. Which is a ludicrous claim.
I…never said that?
Then what are you saying, exactly? A city with civilians got bombed, and that was cool?
Oh Wow, now you are asking me to discuss the morality of War as a concept, and Bombing as a method of War? What exactly are you pursuing here?
What I am pursing is relatively simple. “Civilians are not a valid military target.” Now, you can tell me what you are pursuing.
Civilians are never a military target. As someone who has served in the Aerial Forces of his country’s nation, I think I am fairly safe in making that claim. Civilians -can- however be tragic collateral damage. That is neither something to be sought, or proud of.
I really hope that everyone saying that this is an acceptable act of war wouldn’t criticize Jaina for drowning OG, or call her crazy because she was willing to do it, once.
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So, erm. What? You do understand that, when you are throwing a massive nuke, on a city, there is no collateral damage, as you are aiming to destroy the…entire city?
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