Because he likes playing tanks. That’s his whole thing. He plays all of them, pushing with them every season. That’s just the niche he enjoys!
Just as pikaboo enjoys rogue, venruki enjoys mage etc. Different tastes.
I very much fit this category myself. I enjoy tank gameplay. Big dam big numbers never interested me, I much rather enjoy protecting others and holding an objective as long as possible.
Or hooking the poor priest into the water and permanently keeping him there as BDK lol.
It actually has quite decent damage and cc profile for a tank, but the tank changes completely gutted the spec. It’s the least tankiest tank and has the least amount of self healing. Also now it can no longer even teleport in Blitz, so its even worse now.
It just needs a couple better pvp talents and reliable self heal and then it’s viable again.
I was speaking about popularity, I got no clue about his state (I trust you).
as i said above you enjoy ruining other players time and having an unfair advantage because you are not a good player who opens a game and thinks ahh today ill queue bgs do nothing else but kidnap a priest and have a blast.
Yeah well I could say I think melee players sitting on my poor SP and using every single micro cc and a kick is ruining my game and they should be ashamed of themselves too.
But that would be ridiculous. Just as your post is.
I haven’t said whether I’m a good player or not. I just enjoy tank gameplay. I think they have their place in the game (particularly blitz), and I think they, if balanced well, can be very healthy for the game.
If you don’t like that, that’s fine.
Talks about kidnapping a priest and drowning him with no counter play healthy for the game.
Complains about been trained on spriest when its your only counter in the game spriest is in a good spot right now.
You can counter it. You can send people to kill or peel the DK.
And also the BDK is taking themselves out of the fight too. Granted, a healer priest is more useful (in general) in blitz than a tank is, unless it’s Kotmogu.
Except that I said for me to complain about that now would be ridiculous. Do I hate it when it happens? Yeah, I do. Absolutely.
But I’m not out there saying these people are ruining the game for me. They are enjoying the game. Good for them.
thats not a counter thats multiple people vs one person who cares if they are taking themselfs out of the fight too its about it been bad for the game you are playing a game to make someone else not play the game… that is not healthy.
But you can still fight back when been trained and win you cant do that vs a tank as they are unkillable a skilled spriest can beat double meele training it thats how games should work they have an easier time vs casters to reward this just been immortal on a tank and taking someone hostage and the only way they can fight back is either a fury warrior coming to kill the dk or 2/3 other dps helping thats not balanced.
The reason tanks DONT belong in PvP is because they are universally toxic to play against whenever they´re strong. No one enjoys seeing a backpaddling bear fighting n winning a 1v6 against good players except for the one abusing the bear.
Tanks in other games do generally low damage n have good survival n possibly good disruption, Tanks in WoW are designed to hold aggro against PvE mobs.
If tanks lost all their self healing and about 70-80% of their damage output im sure people wouldnt mind them. The problem is that tank abusers feel entitled to winning a 1v6 because “we´re tanks!”
in WoW tanks kit is far too simular to dps specs which resaults in them simply being superior dps specs with two built in pocket healers that are immune to CC whenever they´re strong which is why they take increased damage, the fact that they have on multiple occasions still been immortal despite this multiplier says it all.
What role do you want a tank to have? if we go by other games logics with PvP tanks you´d lose all your mobility, all your self healing, 70-80% of your damage and maybe reduce the damage multiplier to about 40% increased damage taken instead. If left unsupported against ONE dps you´d get your teeth kicked in. Your role is to be disruptive in teamfights and support your team, 0 self reliance n awful as a duelist.
Prot war has that guard mechanic if you stay 20y to it and it will take 40% of the dmg instead which it can also mitigate. It has purpose, same as some gdudus used to run flags, otherwise Idk whats the point.
Tbh there was no issue before they changed the system of aggro, now you need to do a ton of dmg to generate enough threat compared to before tanks did 0 dmg but had insane threat generation.
I guess they changes it because people wanted to do solo content and probably also cause of recount details.
I think thats a very fair statement, and im all for that lmao, idk why they are not doing it at this point, just give tanks a talent path that makes them give up on their Defencives and increases their damage , this is tank main speaking btw, I think that will fix it being annoying for others and better for tank pvpers.
Then your not a tank anymore they have also already tried it multiple times in the past if you want to do more damage go dps if you want to play tank keep it to rbg or go tank some mobs in mythic+ …
bro, what are u even yapping about, I already do enough damage , All i care about is people complaining that im too tanky in the pvp, the answer i wrote is one of the solutions, U will not gatekeep anyone from trying pvp lmfao thats ridiculous, stop telling people what to do
Your been nerfed tommorow because it was overtuned a 15% damage to all abilities and 20% to execute you was not doing enough damage you was doing too much blizzard are not going to make changes for such a minority in the game.
you didnt write one of the solutions you want to keep tanks overloaded kit with mobility and roots/cc while turning them into a dps going against the whole point of a tank just play your tank and enjoy it its already viable in pvp.
I wasnt even talking about the damage i was doing IN PTR bro, idk what are u even talking about this point, and no its not a MINORITY , and if it WERE a minority its still RESPECTABLE to have their opinion taken seriously???, u can not just evaporate something that has beein in wow since the beggining. ur gatekeeping arenas lmfao ur craaaaazy.
No1 is gatekeeping arenas you are allowed to queue up for solo shuffle and no what you are asking for is the opinion of the majority of arena players to not be respected and them to suffer just so a select few can face roll in arena on tank.
Tank is playable in both arena/shuffle and blitz it’s just not the best because it doesent deserve to be just admit you want the rest of the community to suffer because you want to play a tank in arena when you can just go play it in blitz or mythic+/raids.
So my question to you is do you feel like you have to respect what I just wrote as it’s mine and most of the player bases opinion or do you agree that if you don’t like someone’s opinion you shouldn’t have to take it seriously.
Also no not all opinions should be taken seriously as this is a product we pay for and I’m not paying to play vs someone drooling on the keyboard playing protection warrior with multiple roots defensives stuns and abilities to make teammates immortal.
Tanks are fine to exist in any form of Battlegrounds - objective based combat
Arena - no
Just no
Oftentimes all tanks do for your team is put a target on your back, and for the enemy team they are just annoying and nothing else
More often than not you will lose if your team has a tank in arena
It will be a long, painful game, that you lose
Who is having fun in those long painful games - nobody except the tank
It is essentially like having a Ret paladin with no damage on your team
zzzzzzzzzzz
The best awc games I seen had tanks in it.
Brewmaster blood dk and prot paladin all had some insanely fun and championship comps.
inb4 melee cleave players and rmp jungle+wizards come and tell me how wrong I am while they play their boring comp for 20 years.
Just keep playing tanks in Pvp. Even Blizzard has stated they want tanks to be part of pvp, per their design in 2023:
"We’re often asked, “what is your vision for tanks in PvP?” First, if you enjoy playing a tank, we want you to feel like you can provide value to your team in some way. But, we don’t want that value to be “I can never die.” A tank should be harder to kill then a DPS, but not by a wide margin. Likewise, a tank should do less damage than a DPS (and preferably far less burst damage) but not damage you can simply ignore. We want a tank to be able to go into an arena with their friends, compete, have fun, and earn rewards. We’re much more hesitant to say we want tanks to be viable in arenas at the highest level. However, in rated battlegrounds, we would very much like to see tanks at the highest level, not only as flag carriers or point defenders, but as target callers and frontline disruptors. We think that is a fun place for tanks to live in PvP.
We don’t think we’ve arrived at this vision by any means and it may take some time and iteration before we do. We appreciate your impassioned feedback and hope you’ll continue to give PvP a try on your tank. Thanks!"