With Boomkins now nerfed, which spec is the PVP king in p2?

Yeah its not easy this early, but I think destro + mage + spriest would be an insane comp (with hpala) later on. As the mage can setup kills for the team - and lock+mage peeling for hpala and nuking during mage setup.

If you play this comp right now, its going to be a turtle comp though. Could work with a MM hunter.

But I agree its not a class you go into group PvP and faceroll with atm.

Maybe. Right now i mostly play solo though and I’ve never had less fun in wow pvp.

I’ve played warlock since 2005 and have always felt very tanky. I play warlock because we have the best utility and very high DMG. It’s a difficult class to get max value out of. Especially 1vX.

So it’s really disgusting that right now warlock is a literal wheelchair. I’m useless alone.

Makes me want to just uninstall. I’m not having any fun getting one tapped by every class in the game

I think best would be to find or make a turtle comp for STV, you backstab groups and turtle when people are pushing you (with a hpala - mage - sp and MM hunter I think this comp would do very good atm) but your role would mostly be peeling - CC, and damage when mage or hunter is setting you up.

Solo pvp though as a lock is very rough this early :\

Tank warlock is very strong in 1v1 pvp

Yeah I do fine in the event during fights.

But dying is a disaster. I’m silenced for 30 seconds so I can’t summon a pet or buff. Can’t even mount up. And I run meta.

So summoning pet takes 10s and costs 1k mana. Meta costs 1k mana. And buffing is also expensive. Essentially I use 80-90% of my mana when I respawn.

I also need to prefarm 20-30 soul shards.

The STV event is just not enjoyable in the slightest as a warlock

who remembers mages?

This is true, few classes can actually kill lock especially as affli

Rogue is only good in a 1v1 setting, which there are very little off in SOD since the world is very active.

Any form of grp pvp and rogues are one of the worst classes.

Yours - until next week.

out of Curiosity, how is Melee Hunter performing compared to say a geared War/Ret?

I have heard all the calls for nerf melee hunter etc etc, but in fairness they are very well geared from the SM Dungeons, all that Mail loot with Str on it, literally fits the spec perfectly.

So while i play a ranged hunter and do a lot less damage than a melee hunter, I am going to assume its because most of my gear is still BFD raid stuff, compared to the melee hunters lv37-40 Rare dungeon gear with nice Strength on it.

They are very good for group PvP, they setup the initial clash - sap / blind + kill setup.
A good rogue can single handed keep two people out of the fight - has good pressure and will often make the big plays in 5v5s+.

They do a bit too much damage I would say (not sure if thats due to a bug with armor), but they have a bit of problems staying in melee range against ranged - vs Melee they are a bit overtuned though.

If your thinking just PvE, it appears that they will be doing more damage than MM with gear (it might be due to a bug, that some abilities do not count against the armor attribute of enemies). But its not 100% there is a bug - speculations.

reroll SP , druid is unplayable in all 3 specs now

Shadow priest 100%

Followed by hunters throwing instant traps infight and at 35 yrds range. I mean wtf ? ^^

All 3 specs are still viable, if your a ape that have to relay on broken things to be viable then sure SP might be it for your special needs.

But what will you reroll to when SP gets nerfed. Whats the next wheelchair fotm hero class I wonder.

Sure, demo lock beats Rogue atm. But thats a tank. I dont see a world where at 40 Affi or especially Destro stands a chance.

Assuming its equal skill ofc. Also id say in original Vanilla Locks are the PvP winners, but in tournaments. Where you expect to be attacked, have full buffs and consumes going. + everything else.

In the open world, its a different story. Not always, but dominate ? Id say not even close.

Whatever class can burst.

Open world pvp is a mess of 1 shots, its just whatever class can get in fastest.

Shadow priest.

Rogue.

Boomkin

Elemental Shaman.

Tbh shadows always been strong in classic pvp. The major increase is ofcourse shadow word death and the fact it now can retain mana more.

Rogues generally can kill anything though, shadow still lacks mobility and is generally weak against large burst dmg / CC.

If your looking to reliably be strong in open world pvp, rogue is just king, shadow priests sure pack a punch. But it aint gonna do anything under CC, or push back.

I agree, my main in vanilla was a SP - undead ofc :stuck_out_tongue:

But right now they are a bit over the top, they arent the only ones though.

Everythings over the top realistically, its just a scale of 1 shots, whjchever does it faster is the one cried on.

Open world pvp is always insanity, and tbh pvp in vanilla overall is just whack. Gear disparity in vanilla is so large, that litterally its a one sided fight.

You can take the strongest class in the game, if you arent raiding, or competitively geared, u will merely tickle players in most cases.

But yeah throwing shadow word death at a class with already high damage nukes was a wild card the only flaw spriest had was lack of mana.

I can forsee shadow word death being nerfed, not that it will matter, priest lacks any sorta dps rune to replace it with lol

Every time I see one of these ā€œwhat’s your opinionā€ posts I get the feeling we’re being surveyed by some blizz employee