WoW Classic is too expensive

That may be but we handled it the best from what I know. If someone would complain about “I can’t play video games because I am poor” in a society state like back then, literally everybody would just say “get your :poop: together and work for a better future”.

Edit: Also, UK, France, Russia didn’t lose the war and didn’t had to deal with Reparations. Italy maybe, but they switched sides. Austria and Germany had both to deal with that, alongside with rebuilding the country. And both of us succeeded magnificently with that.

Question not in price tho. The main question is what u get on the sub fee? Another work after work? No fun allowed? Grind? Timegates? No real tuning? Lack of content? etc
And what in classic - 18 years old game for the sub? It must be b2p max.

Are there local groups or politicians that actually want to improve your countries economy?

Yeah ofc you did /sarcasm.

So you thinking winning the war made things easy LOL the whole of the UK had to be rebuilt Germany flattened it every city and town maybe look at the whole picture and look at the other countries effected.

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If your country is part of the EU, you know you can travel and live way easier in a richer EU country for work?

Buildings, yes. But UKs economy wasn’t dismantled continuously afterwards by the winning forces and they didn’t had to pay lots of money for the rebuilding of countries they damaged (because they didn’t really).

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Yep. Still the countries that lost the war had a bigger crisis than the winning countries.

Oh we are not a part of European union but what i ment is we live in the eastern Europe side of the continent.

I can’t tell if this is a troll or not

People complain runescape sub is too expensive and its bloody 4 bucks :thinking:

I would say some people lost their measurement for “too expensive”.

I get it for the “poor people” but the average human is not that poor that 15$ are expensive per month.

New nostalrius server. Most corrupted server ever? Admins running bot gangs, selling gold ect.
But yea I agree good private servers provide a lot better quality of gameplay.

1 Germany didn’t pay reparations almost at all.
2 Germany was rebuilt by USA with Marshall plan.

Really, no need to twist history.

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Regarding 1:

After World War II, according to the Potsdam conference held between July 17 and August 2, 1945, Germany was to pay the Allies US$23 billion mainly in machinery and manufacturing plants. Dismantling in the west stopped in 1950. Reparations to the Soviet Union stopped in 1953.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations

Regarding 2:

West Germany embarked in its program of reconstruction with financial support provided by the Marshall Plan and, guided by the economic principles of the Minister of Economics Ludwig Erhard excelled in the economic miracle during the 1950s and 1960s.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Germany

Financial support of Marshall plan =/= USA did everything

Edit: Furthermore…

The Marshall Plan was implemented in West Germany 1948-1950 as a way to modernize business procedures and utilize the best practices. The Marshall Plan made it possible for West Germany to return quickly to its traditional pattern of industrial production with a strong export sector. Without the plan, agriculture would have played a larger role in the recovery period, which itself would have been longer.

The use of the American model had begun in the 1920s. After 1950, Germany overtook Britain in comparative productivity levels for the whole economy, primarily as a result of trends in services rather than trends in industry. Britain’s historic lead in productivity of its services sector was based on external economies of scale in a highly urbanized economy with an international colonial orientation. On the other hand, the low productivity in Germany was caused by the underdevelopment of services generally, especially in rural areas that comprised a much larger sector. As German farm employment declined sharply after 1950 thanks to mechanization, catching-up occurred in services. This process was aided by a sharp increase in human and physical capital accumulation, a pro-growth government policy, and the effective utilization of the education sector to create a more productive work force.

Minuscule amount with inflation calculated. Like i said, almost nothing. it was symbolic.

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Oh, let us do some math. According to financial history sites.

$1 in 1945 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $15.49 today , an increase of $14.49 over 77 years.

So that means 23.000.000.000$ from 1945 * 14.49$ of todays worth.

That equals roughly into 333.270.000.000$ of todays value in 2022.

That’s 333,27 billion Dollars today. For reference, with that money you can buy 6.331.141 Tesla Model 3s. That’s not “symbolic”. That’s a lot of money back then.

Edit: I see I made a miscalculation and only calculated with the increase, not the actual worth. So just add 23 billion $ to the summary.

Spread that to 1 billion people who were affected in ww2 and you will see what i am talking about.

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That’s not part of the discussion. Important is that germany had to pay that much. What others do with that money was never our concern nor important for our own economy?

Edit: The Allies/Soviets in WW2 had not to pay reparations, simply because they won the war and forced those charges on the nations that lost. That’s what the difference is. Nations like mine had additionally Handicaps in the rebuilding process and such a situation is far worse than a weak-economy country today has since they are not at war with other nations.

Yet you are happy how to tell others to live very ironic and hypocritical and saying only your country suffered after the war is really nonsensical.

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You got five times more from USA. Essentially USA payed those minuscule tiny reparations on behalf of Germany.

No need to twist things :smiley:

Ok, let me make following things clear:

  1. I am not happy in telling people from other countries that they have to improve their own country for a better living in general. That is a serious topic and I am feeling bad for the people that have not much money. But making a game, “less expensive to play” in such a country is not going to fix the country or improve their lives much in general. It is like being Phil Swift from Flex Tape Advertisements, putting Flex Tape over a hole and the tape itself has a slightly smaller hole for leaking through. That’s not how Capitalism works.

  2. I never said that my country was the only one that suffered. Do you want to know why I know? Because in our schools they are teaching every generation what unethical, inhuman practices and methods our ancestors used and how evil it is. Our own nation is always trying to remember us, that we did evil stuff.
    I only said, that my country experienced a much worse situation that the situation todays poor countries face. Austria and Germany came back from a situation, that could have led to a total collapse of their own countries, with certain help from other countries and our own will to improve our situation as quickly as possible.
    Every poor country can do that too. They just have to change their political goals, focus more on their own nation and ask other countries to help them so that it benefits all in the global economy.
    Even small countries like Namibia improve their own export economy monthly by around 18.1% (at least that is what their Government states).

And while speaking of economy growth again…


Indeed, reports at the time suggest that, by the time the plan took effect, Western Europe was already well on the road to recovery.

And, despite the significant investment on the part of the United States, the funds provided under the Marshall Plan accounted for less than 3 percent of the combined national incomes of the countries that received them. This led to relatively modest growth of GDP in these countries during the four-year period the plan was in effect.

That said, by the time of the plan’s last year, 1952, economic growth in the countries that had received funds had surpassed pre-war levels, a strong indicator of the program’s positive impact, at least economically.

Source: https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/marshall-plan-1

3% is not that much, as you would say. That is what I would call “symbolic”.

And if you want proof on that, read this:

https://www.marshallfoundation.org/library/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2014/05/Marshall_Plan_1947-1997_A_German_View.pdf

Its too cheap in Activision`s eyes :wink: You sub once - but you get 3 whole games! (Classic, TBC Classic, Retail).