WoW Classic is too expensive

So Civil War…or try your hand at not drowning/suffocating, while being people trafficked…and either way peeps in richer nations, will look down their noses at you, say they are ‘full’ and devote enormous amounts of time and money, to send you back where you came from, because you are an economic migrant, not a refugee and so that’s bad, m’kay.

What could possibly go wrong?..
:thinking:

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No, I never said fight for it with violence. You can fight for better loans and economy with rules and laws made by politicians. Basically I meant with my original statement, “protest for lower rents and better salary and improvements to export”.

Poorer countries tend to be poorer, because the peeps running them imprison those peeps who protest…significantly reducing the options for ‘protest’

Even richer nations are starting to imprison peeps protesting the Establishment elite getting richer, as the poor get poorer…because its cheaper than genuine ‘Leveling Up’… which in reality will mean Gentrification, not jobs…Windowdressing politics, is windowdressing.

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In that case, yes. There needs to be a revolution.

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It’s 33p a day!

Lol. Warmane is trash.

50k? Lol! More like 8k here. Slovakia… 21k? Delusional numbers.

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Sub costs the same.

Classic subs should have been on a separate account. What is happening there is people pay a sub with gold on a retail server and the person they are paying it for gives them gold in classic. Which means the classic economy is gone very lopsided.

Lol. You like wasting your time it seems then. Imagine how much thousands of euros you’d make with that time spent.

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The problem I find when discussing poverty with people who have never had to deal with it, is that they often concentrate on the items we consider luxuries, or focus too much on the net take home figure…often forgetting that the cost of living is rising rapidly, often in direct contrast to the rate of inflation and minimum wage.

It’s the essentials that devour these people’s financial resources often leaving nothing behind for any form of recreational/fun/luxuries.

I am ashamed to say I live in a very high deprivation area, where children in my school receive funding for school resources, the implication being that money for such things isn’t possible from their family budget. A place where many families rely on food banks, clothes banks, experience poverty. Where we monthly collect for toothbrushes and toothpaste as these are usually the first items parents have to forgo to feed and clothe their children and where bed poverty is slowly rising.

Not a developing country either, I live in Yorkshire in the UK. Yet when speaking to some people I get “I don’t know how they can’t afford to live, maybe if they gave this or that up, not realising that purely living just to survive is exhausting and soul destroying” and I deal with children 0-5 who are experiencing this.

Personally, I don’t judge, and I don’t care how they got into that situation, my only thought is to try and make their lives that little bit more bearable because lets face it I have been lucky…

And now, energy prices are set to soar and I worry now whether my kids will be warm enough at home, have enough light…etc.

Remember be kind always, people are fighting battles sometimes that you know nothing about. If you are okay, and have been lucky, spare a thought for those poor people whose ball landed on 0

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I know this all too well, I live in a pretty neighbourhood. My direct neighbour lost his job and came in crying. We actually paid him enough to cover his monthly expenses (they have 3 kids).

He drives a nicer car than me, he organizes more parties than me. Etc etc. But guess who was ‘bankrupt’ the month after losing his job?

We helped his family out, he was too ashamed to go to his parents or tell his wife. They paid everything back as soon as he found a new job.

Poverty exists in every neighbourhood, don’t let a guy with a nice audi fool you.

Just glad my parents taught me the important things: we save enough, don’t spend money on stupid things and appreciate what we have.

It also helps to have a kid, they really change your priorities if you know what I mean.

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Oh, there are surely fun activites that don’t have repeating costs, like card board games, books or simply talking with friends.

Same here.
Imagine if that was something that everyone would learn since childhood. Maybe we would not be having so many people who are in debt due to taking loans in an attempt to look rich (which was one of the origins of the 2008 financial crisis).

My now retired father’s moto is “try to live with a lifestyle which a third of what you earn can afford you, save the rest for when it is needed”

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Ironic. I am living by the same rule. Your father is/was a smart man.

Well aren’t you a condescending little piece of work…

There are numerous exports that have been tried and every one of them have been struck down by sanctions from America and EU, specifically Germany, which has been in legal fights with majority of Russian industry since 1970s.

Trust big coprorations more, this will get you to a much better life, don’t worry, there is nothing to see here (obvious sarcasm). Again, average per capita is not average defacto, as I said:

Majority of jobs in russia offer 15-40 k salaries for your “average joe” jobs, your “average” salary argument is combining my 100k salary with 2 of my students 20 k salary and saying that our average salary is 35-ish k rubles. Shut it.

Also, it’s funny hearing this:

Directly after a post with this:

Also, good luck overthrowing your government without guns, you are not America or Ukraine.

The cost is not as astronomical as you think it is, but it is a rather overpriced product. Like I said, there are COUNTLESS games you can buy for a proper value, yet Blizzards price policies are getting more ridiculous by the month. Their price adjustments went overboard and look ridiculous in comparison to other games simply due to the fact that you are getting an objectively inferior product for a ridiculous price.

How is paying 300 rubles a month is a luxury cost? Phone services in Russia are more expensive than playing videogames, what are you talking about?

Ok, genius, riddle me this: the cost in russia goes up, the subs go down, the profits make a dip. There are less people playing the game due to the cost increase and less money being made overall by essentially making other people pay for those that quit. Compare that to FF 14 that LOWERED their price and immediately got wind in their sails that they ride TO THIS DAY with Russia being one of their largest playerbases just due to the sub costs being affordable. Your argument is such a fundamental misunderstaning of market relations it is abysmall.

Wow token as it stands is garbage. Limit it to being tradeble with gold only, remove the ability to buy it with money and voila, you have a system that allows players to target the token to pay for a sub without actually having to pay.

That guide is mostly aimed at hardcore players that basically no-life the game for days on end. Also, notice how majority of the guide requires you to basically have a druid and join multiple parties just for a CHANCE to have some rare drops. Most of the time you will just waste time and not really get anything, especially if you don’t consider server AH costs, population of the server in general and sheer lack of AH moderation with bots galore.

Mind starting to stop blaming just the countries and start looking for reasons that are actually valid? Thanks in advance, would apreciate it here.

Blizzards responisbility is to make their games popular and affordable to a vast majority of players, not the other way around like they were doing these 4-5 years.

Wrong, they never had that as part of their design, this part was always left for players to figure out, then again, it hasn’t really changed much since legion, which exhaserbated the raiding problem, which made the game more focused on that particular aspect and basically made the devs abandon other types of content whatsoever.

A) Wonderfull use of 10 year old stats to prove a 2022 point, go back and read the FF 14 argument I presented and kindly shut it.
B) Bold of you to assume OP was Russian. If you are talking about my point - Russia is only a tiny part of this problem, there are many more countries with many more people wanting to play who are unable and thus find alternative means or alternative games (Which is by very definition lost revenue).
C) How in the world making a game with an in-game store (which is the main source of income for the game) more affordable for general population can lead to losses of general revenue for a game of size and scale as WoW is beyond me. Again, look at what FF 14 did with their price policies and stare in awe at the money they rake in from Russia. It is THE biggest game in Russia, arguably more popular than DotA 2 and even CS (imagine my shock).

Given how abysmall their situation is right now, I would say that they have to fight for more people joining their games, not restricting them. Again, your point is shoddy at best and plain wrong at worst.

AND HOW IN THE BLOODY WORLD IS THAT GOOD FOR BLIZZARD?! HOW CAN YOU IN A RIGHT MIND SAY THIS AFTER ALL YOU SAID?! Of course, let WoW stay stale and bleed subs to other competitors, this is absolutely fine! What is this argument?!

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Would you care to elaborate? The sub for FF 14 costs 280 rubles, The sub for SWTOR costs 300 rubles (it actually went down, last time I checked it was 359), while WoW costs 650 rubles. Were you talking about FF 14 and SWTOR or…?

You have no idea about me and my real life money at all so please stop assuming just i rather earn gold in game then spend real life money on mounts is that hard for you to understand on your high horse ? :slight_smile:

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Sorry but no. The only decent one was Nostalrius and the rest is filled with bugs , corrupt staff and extremely toxic and racist weirdos.

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Open up an only… Fans… If you are a woman.
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