I think that OP is overly dramatic here and has an unhealthy obsession most likely. This is only my guess though. Nothing personal. Didn’t mean to offend.
Classic vs retail comparison seemed silly, as it’s much easier to get competitive gear now than in classic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall classic having that many catchup mechanisms that sped up gearing. You could’ve gone weeks dry without getting gear piece, because master loot / rng rolls / priority lists, no weekly vault in sight. PvP gear having same honor/rank limits all the way.
Comparing this to retail, where you can literally spam your m+ keys for gear till very competitive level in PvE setting. Also having vault on top of that. PvP also has increasing cap of conquest alongside the vault.
This has been the theme of the game for years “huge weekly loot”. Now they have made it easier by having bad luck protection aka the Great Vault. Somehow now, this is a burden for you? You’ve burnout mate. Ate too much chocolate that it drips out of your ears.
I think you feel the need to be at max efficiency that it gnaws on your enjoyment. Your daily quest example, you don’t want to miss out, but neither you want the game dictate when you play. Completely understandable. I wish that there was a boost to rep gains if you missed a day, 1.8x rep so you only miss 20% by not doing it daily. I agree on that. My solution, however, has been “I don’t care if I miss a day”, which isn’t applicable to everyone.
I think you need a break. This is what they advice on abusive relationships I reckon. Leave. Run.
I think you’re overcomplicating this a bit. I play WoW because I enjoy it, it’s relaxing. Personally gear is only required as a means to an end, long gone are the days where items had any real meaning to me. My goal when I came back was to complete all Torghast and Mage Tower achievements, it turns out I needed better gear to do the harder Torghast stuff so I’ve been chipping away at it slowly.
I enjoy playing the challenging solo content, really fun for me. The Vault is a garbage system because I just don’t enjoy RNG lottery “surprise” gambling mechanics but it’s not enough to stop me enjoying the game as a whole. There are a million things I’d change about the game but it helps to not get overly invested.
I think the key is to not base your identity and your whole recreation around a video game. I play guitar professionally, I enjoy mountain biking recreationally and in gaming I also like other games, particularly sim-racing games… But WoW is still my favourite video game, whether it be classic or retail. WoW is a bit like pizza, even when it’s bad it’s pretty good once in a while, especially if you’re hungry.
they disagree to prove that they are right, I do agree that wow players (most of them) are just playing because of addiction to that feeling wow offers, it is really something that I can’t describe why you feel that way when you play wow only, in other games you feel more hollow then in wow, it is true for all, you just don’t understand me.
I would also not agree that I am depressed in wow, I just addicted to that feeling, depression is when you cross that line of regreting something and then feeling sad about it and bad, then you cross it again, and again, until you are completely depressed, I dont feel that way…
nahh, only newer players actually enjoy wow differently then old players, many of us play just to play the game, it is not same as playing new game for the first time, I just don’t trust majority of players play for fun, because they run same dungeon for 50th time, for fun? I don’t think it can be same amount of fun if something is as repetitive as wow or any mmorpg.
I play this game for Roleplay (granted, I am a new player). I still could do all the content in the game I haven’t done (so basically almost everything except Alliance Side Kul Tiras, Suramar, Argus and entirety of SL with only Kyrian Covenant Story done).
when I play wow it never comes to me if repetitive means boring, but when I try any other mmo It just feels boring to grind same stuff for 50th amount of time, you just don’t feel like that because you are overhyped with that vibe that wow offers, I don’t want to overcomplicate things for you but when you don;t understand someone at least don’t be quick to judge or say things to prove that you are right, just don’t be overconfident about it and be sceptical about what the hell is he talking about?
i agree bad RNG has to be tuned down, if i killed a boss i think i deserves 1 loot from the boss. i think a currency token would be nice so u get the loot u want.
BOsses drops a token, token can be used used at a vendor for boss loot. solve ML/PL issue as well, as every one gets something usefull.
And if ppl are afraid of ppl not wanting to kill bosses again after a certain time, i can ensure u its cooler to play with good gear trying to parse well than bad. and it could also be added some motivation to kill bosses more, like say having achveivements that was like kill this boss 5 times or just insert number and u get a mount 100%. and u could even have it so it was for current raid tier only, so u had to kill the bosses when it was current etc.
THere is easy to make a game where most ppl are very happy and pleased. but some wants to be special snowflakes having stuff no one else has.
You are completely correct OP and I applaud you for being able to think on your own.
World of Warcraft is not a video game and anyone with half a brain cell can see that. The entire design choice and psychology revolving World of Warcraft is based on nurturing and actively luring in miserable people to make them feel like by playing World of Warcraft they are actually not losers.
Why is there a vault in the game? Because Blizzard wants to give people free gear…? If Blizzard truly wanted people to be able to get higher item level gear then they would simply let you buy it with valor points like you could back in the day… back in the day… when… different people were in charge, different people who did not approve of the current game design Blizzard is pursuing in their games.
The current Blizzard does not try to make fun content, they try to make addicting content. They want you to torture yourself in keys and then get excited every single Wednesday because the type of player who plays WoW has nothing else to be excited for. WoW players are not the type of person who has a successful career, not lawyers and doctors but instead they’re mostly miserable and don’t have a very happy life. That is why getting fancy shiny loot in the vault gives them an absurd amount of dopamine.
The sad part is that WoW players chase this and they want it exactly like drug addicts. WoW players do not want to be able to gear easily for raids. They don’t want to be able to take a 1 year break without losing out on FOMO. They want the current toxic game design the same way drug addicts want to continue taking drugs. Because it makes them feel good.
I have not only played WoW for a very long time but unlike most people I have actually gotten things done and with that I mean I did not log on to do mount runs. I have met a lot of high rated players in PvE and PvP and they were always the exactly same person. Many of the top M+ players are unemployed and single or they work in crappy miserable jobs. Even the few people that are in relationships are miserable as they often do not even talk to their partner. I have known couples who play games separately and do not speak the entire day. There are barely any healthy couples who play WoW extensively because the game design is simply not made for them.
This is also why WoW will continue to die irrelevant of whether they make good content or not. Every day WoW players are getting older and every day more of them are waking up realizing that a game that forces you to log on every single day is simply not worth it. At the same time kids today are too intelligent to commit absurd amounts of time to a video game. They wanna jump in and out within 10 minutes and that’s why WoW is not getting new players no matter how many furry images Blizzard spams on their social media.
FFXIV is the best proof for all of my statements. There is absolutely zero toxic mechanics in FFXIV. While in Darkmoon Faire all games are completely boring and you have to log on every single day to farm your stupid tokens to buy… cosmetics… in FFXIV you can spam those minigames 24/7 until you’re done and those minigames are extremely fun. People even go there when they do not want to farm any items. Who here does Darkmoon Faire games without aiming to buy anything…?
Blizzard knows what they are doing because this is simply their philosophy now. They could easily stop the whole FOMO garbage, bring back raids, bring back CE achievements, allow people to play the game how they want instead of basing it off seasons but they don’t because their addicted player base wants it this way. Raiders like that they are forced to raid 12 hours a week for their CE against their will because when they finally get that sweet CE achievement and they stand there… in an absolutely empty raid instance… and they see the log off timer tick down to 1… they feel so damn good due to the dopamine rush. Because they no longer have to log on to World of Warcraft… they are free… until the next season.
I’ve played like 50% of the entire run of SL so far, if not less. That’s how bored I’ve been of WoW this expansion, and thus I’ve played other games a lot.
Like you are?
You’re literally trying to prove that you are right, will I go by the benefit of the doubt that it isnt as bad as you claim.
Not when he comes off as ‘‘I’m totes right’’.
I think you need to look up what the definition of a video game is - because WoW is a video game you dont like anymore. So why are you still here whining?
Yet here you are, complaining.
Is not a game everyone wishes to play. For whatever reason - be it the artstyle, the gameplay - whatever.
I’m sure as hell not gonna play FFXIV, and no matter how much people hype it - I aint playing it.
Major in art? Every darn company want our sweet dopamine and only you can decide if it is worth giving them your attention.
Easy solution:
You like the game: play it
You don’t like it: don’t play it
If it ruin you life: don’t play it
If you play to much and it goes out over you life seek help from healthcare since you may have other problems in life that you are running from and WoW won’t fix them I can promise you that.
Blizzard is a company and it’s whole purpose is to earn as much money as possible. The only reason why they listen now is that we did stop giving them money and the investors crave answer why they aren’t getting more money (read the Q1 report).
Start looking at games like every day purchases, example: if your favorite chocolate suddenly starts to taste bad you won’t buy it more, just the same logic should apply to WoW or any other game. I know you have invested much time and feel like you can’t quit due to it. But think about “sunk cost” the time that you have invested are already gone and you should therefore only consider if any further investment of time is worth it.
If this is how the game makes you feel, your free to do whatever you want and don’t forget that.
Addictive personality disorders are real things, and like anything can be managed.
