I remember reading a forum thread from back in 2005 about how wow is going to be dead within a year, cracked me up, ever since then you just never take that sentence seriously.
And 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 200⦠etc.
Iāll tell you a secret. I couldnāt care less.
Yeah but this is thread about WoW is Thriving ⦠WoW is dying thread is that way . Alltough i have a theory that every thread will turn into WoW is dying thread if kept alive long enough.
Why did you reply then? Oh noes! LYING!
Also, who said I was replying to you with that, Center of the Known Universe?
Just to let you know Since you wanted to let me know something.

Since you wanted to let me know something.
See above.
Iāve noticed a massive decline and disband of guilds Iāve been in because they couldnāt pull off the people anymore to put together the groups⦠Iāve seen less people in guilds and cities on even RP serversā¦
But ofcourse that might be just be my perception.

Iāve noticed a massive decline and disband of guilds Iāve been in because they couldnāt pull off the people anymore to put together the groupsā¦
Thatās always been an issue, particularly if youāre a raiding guild. It takes a long time to find people who dont just leave after a few weeks.
Do these counts account for characters on the same account? I have 10 120 chars and I log them weekly. Soon to be more. If these numbers includ alts, then the population is WAY lower than we think.

because I can see it with my own eyes where CRZ follow special rules (not turned off completely, there are still people from other realms, but less).
CRZ is not turned off in (I presume you mean) RP realms they just dont automatically join people from other realm types. Someone on your realm invited them.
Because it is?
I mean sure itās a slow decline but it is in decline.
Thatās nothing unusual or bad.
How you perceive that decline is what the problem is, you are ignoring it and thinking everything is fine and the world is great, when in actual fact the world is slowly but surely in decline.
I look at it this way.
Yes the game is in decline, (expected after 14 years) but the people I play with are still playing and there is still fun to be had so it doesnāt really matter for now.
When it does matter, is when the population canāt support the in game economy, thatās when the problems start. We arenāt there yet but there are enough markers to suggest itās on itās way sometime over the next few years.
afaik they track individual characters, so alts are included.
I have many and I log them all quite frequently.
Itās pretty much the most useless statistic going because of those characters at least half are alts, and if that wasnāt enough there are people with 5+ characters active which puts the sum at a considerably lower value than people think.
Itās not a problem but interpretation of those numbers is being thrown around as though it means anything outside of there are a lot of charactersā¦and many are alts.

Do these counts account for characters on the same account? I have 10 120 chars and I log them weekly. Soon to be more. If these numbers includ alts, then the population is WAY lower than we think.
@Chornoboh: The numbers in that post were characters, because Rezista was referencing that area. I will clarify my position, because this thing keeps spreading into multiple threads.
In my opinion, based on calculations I made with the limited data available on Warcraftrealms, WoW realm population and other sites, there are currently a minimum total of 2,3+ million active accounts on EU+US servers that have in excess of 5,6 million active characters over the past 30 days. I hope this was clear enough answer.
People who say WoW is dying have been saying that for 12 years, thats an awful long time dying so, no, WoW isnāt dying, then it would be dead already considering when people started claiming it.

570 000 or even less.
I donāt know why you think that is so far fetched. The game is absolute garbage, no wonder Activision are rushing out Classic in a desperate attemt to save the franchise, even though Classic is not ready, seing the clown show that was the demo.

no wonder Activision are rushing out Classic in a desperate attemt to save the franchise, even though Classic is not ready, seing the clown show that was the demo.
Eh?
A few points.
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Of course Classic WoW wasnāt ready for release during last yearās Blizzcon back in November. Itās announced for Summer 2019, so they still have another 5-7 months to work on it.
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The demo was seemingly a bigger success than anticipated, hence why they extended the duration of it.
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The demo was a limited gameplay experience of an unfinished product, subject to change, and still under development.
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How are Activision (Blizzard) rushing anything? They took quite a while to even get on board with the idea of Classic WoW in the first place! Itās not like they havenāt been taking their sweet time with this project.
I mean, clown show? Cāmonā¦

I mean, clown show? Cāmonā¦
Dude, it has sharding xD

Dude, it has sharding xD
The demo had sharding because the experience had to accomondate Blizzcon attendees who might just sit down at the demo area for 20 minutes. Without sharding theyād spend those 20 minutes in a login queue following by logging into a game world filled with tens of thousands of players. Not an ideal way to present the Classic WoW gameplay, which was the whole point of the demo in the first place.
Classic WoW itself will have sharding only for the initial release period, and only if the server stress is high enough. Ion Hazzikostas explained that at Blizzcon, and itās simply to ensure that servers wonāt crash and that people can login and actually play the game.
Either way, the sharding isnāt meant to be a permanent addition to Classic WoW, itās only meant to be a technical safeguard during the initial period following the release.
Again, cāmonā¦

Classic WoW itself will have sharding only for the initial release period
Exactly - that is why it is not ready. If servers can not handle the players, then it is not ready. You donāt put something as retarded as Sharding in Classic. Nobody wants it.