If the mat price will go up that should have no real effect on the token price, the only thing that can affect it is the inflation what we have since legion with the ez gold quests and all the multiboxers/farmers that farmed raw gold and that should start to normalize now with all the nerfs and hopefully some new gold sinks. If we are lucky we could even get close to the US token price in mid shadowlands… Atleast Im optimistic about it.
At release of shadowlands the token price will skyrocket tho for a few days for obvious reasons.
It will go down again. I don’t think the problem is Blizzard’s recent changes to the ToS. It’s end of the expansion, people are dumping massive amounts of unspent gold.
When cod releases over the weekend just watch them shoot up like crazy.
If you believe that you are a fool, there is enough indirect evidence to prove the token is based on the proportion of people who buy tokens and people who sell tokens, supply, and demand.
You only need to check the token price anytime there is a new item on the store, a pet, an expansion, BlizzCon tickets, a game, etc. to see how the price suddenly increases.
That happens because there is a group of players who only play the game with gold, those players with millions, and most of them only need to buy one token a month, but suddenly with that new thing in the store the buy more tokens, and that break the balance, more demand means the price increase.
A few hours later of that increase of demand the increase in gold price attracts people who normally do not expend 20 Euros into a token because now the price is higher than normal. That extra demand attracts extra offers so after a few hours more the price drops again.
Most of the time the price is back in the original only one day later, maybe 2 for new things that more people buy like expansions.
This is supply and demand, the price has fluctuated like this for supply and demand in the past, and I can predict it will fluctuate like this in the future. In fact, every time Blizzard adds a new thing in their store I just sell one or two tokens because I know the supply and demand will fluctuate in my favor. It has never failed me.
There is no reason why lossing players during BFA should afect the token. The token price it is based on the balance between players who buy the token with gold and players who spend 20 Euros to sell the token for gold. Buyers and sellers. Blizzard could be loosed players with BFA, but there is no reason to believe that loose of players is only buyers or only sellers, so even if BFA has lost half of the players that means both sellers and buyers could have been reduced into a half, and that means the proportion between both has no change, so the price won’t change.
Firs, that is not true. The price dropped over a period of two month, not one week. It was started to drop on July 16 and it didn’t stop until September 10, that drop smal day by day the first month and bigger on August, then small again at the end until it was stabilized again. Also you are wrong to assume that people who have gold to buy tokens constantly will waste it, because one important thing about supply and demand is to never buy a market who is dropping his value, that is called to catch a falling knife. The clever action is to wait for the “knife” to reach the floor and then when it is in his minimun buy stocks/gold. Basically it should be avoided because that act of buying could make the price drop to stop, and that is bad if you want to profit from low prices, it is bettter to not interfere and wait until the price start growing again, and buying on that moment.
I assume that people who earn millions on the AH to buy tokens with gold every month are not stupid, so I am sure their reaction when BFA launched was not to catch the falling knife. Another proof of supply and demand.
“and i must try hard to get 1 for game time without enjoying the game… pls do something for it”
Im gonna piss myself.
Hours would be more useful.
A week can involve 2 hours or 60 hours of playing.
If you spend 60 hours for example farming gold for a token, you might aswell spend 30 hours on a irl job and buy 10 tokens
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And if you paid any attention and i mean really,you would have known that the supply run’d out on those events(they where sold out and there was no toke for hours on the Ah) and once it was UP the price was set to what it was at that day the daily medium(if only WoWToken had still its api data).Happened with the Bnet conversion,legion announcment and Blizzcon virtual ticket(dread mount).
Everything you listed here just proves more how broken the supply/demand theory is.There is waaaaaaay more Gold buyers then Money.And i see i dont have to convince you since you are aware of the experiences.
Also what you described here showcases the artifical algorithams in play to hold the prices in place.Some theorize to cash in on the 5M mount,that they hold it at the 180k overral throught out BFA.
Also again you proved there is way more Gold buyers then people who buy with money.It’s looking at you but you dont want to see it.Just for a nice note Gallywix once it went down Blizz impounded 4,6B gold (2B from EU servers).
I will just repeat my self the Token’s price is generated on how easy it is to get/farm raw gold throught an expansion,mission table,wq,rewards.From that Bliz deems how much buying power the people who buy it with real money should have.
And that does not prove any artificial manipulation, just because you don’t undersand how the token will balance with supply and demand does not means it is artificial. All of this times when there were no more tokens the price started to increase and that increase incentivate more people to buy tokens with Euros because suddently the price in gold was higher. I know because I am only buy tokens in those peeks occasion. When the peek ends the price naturally drops to the original price because the initial increase in price attracted new sellers but the increase in sellers implies a price decrease with the same speed as the initial increase, which at the same time makes those new sellers to stop. In essence the price goes high and people who never sell tokens like me do it, once that happens the price stop increasing and starts decreasing in which those same people stop selling because the peek has ended.
New item → More people buying token with gold for that item → Token price increase → More people buying token with Euros because the gold price is higher → Token price decrease → Token returns to its previous price because both the extra buyers and extra sellers are not buying/selling anymore, the first because they do not need more tokens after buying the new time and the second because they are not interested because they only were selling for the extra gold from the peek price.
No, is not broken because it is predicteble, which implies there is no manipulation. I cant not only tell you when those supply/demand peeks happens in the pats, I can predict you when it will happen on the future, on the next new item released on the store, on the first night between late night hours and early morning of the next day.
I am so sure that I will sell tokens when this will happens. I have no reason to spend 20 Euros for a token now when I know on the next peek I will receive more gold than the gold I could receive on a normal day.
Of course you can’t convince me, I do not trust opinions like youres based on pure paranoia. You make the same mistake as any other people who believe in conspiracy theories, it so cool to feel special and be the only one who see how someone pull the triggers to manipulate us as puppets, but you are not special, you have not see special evidence that the rest of the people can’t, you are just believing a conspiracy that is not real. There is not a hidding meaning behing the things that only you can see.
Please enlightme in wich bizzarre wolrd this that you are saying make sense, I have prooven you how the token is balanced between buyers and sellers, because every time there is an imbalance we can see its effect in the price. Having more gold buyers would be the oppostie, an imbalance. So please explain how a balance between buyers and sellers prooves there is imbalance in favor of one of the two.
How many people do you know who go out and buy the WoW Token for real money,and then how many WoW Token gold buyers and in what amount?
Since the introduction(of the token) i have yet to see from my play time on realms like Ravencrest,Twisting nether up to Draenor,in guilds and friends someone buying gold for real money or what we are talking about here spending ludacris money. I speculate that there is way more people buying it with gold, while the rest of people just sub the regular way.I still have to meet the person who is “honey i’ve spent 500€ for the brutosaur in a video game”.
Hence the supply and demand and artificaly kept price logic.
It is simple it is the way blizzard deems the buy power and the whole market (AH,boost) with the price of WoW Token RMT value. The whole market revolves around that.How much those people get/have the buy power through an expansions life cycle.The second main driving force how easy it is to generate raw gold through expansions life cycle(use to be mission table,garrison(wod),order hall(legion),multiboxers raw farm(bfa)).And it’s genius from them.No where did blizzard openly said its based off supply and demand.
I also think that the price is artificial. I’m pretty sure it fluctuates with supply and demand but I don’t think for one second that if I put a token up on the AH it goes into a queue and my specific token pops out when someone later makes a purchase. That simply wouldn’t work. Either some sales would take a long time when supply outstrips demand - it never takes more than ~12 hours - or sometimes during the opposite there would simply be no tokens to buy. I’ve not been on the latter side of the equation so I can’t say for sure but I don’t think that is allowed to happen. Is it?
I’m not sure that the lockdown would have the effect you describe though. For every person locked down and out of income there is someone locked down and still in a job, working from home, who has more disposable income because there’s no cinema, pub etc to go to. And even those on furlough and on 80% of their salary are, in many cases, better off because they can’t splash on F1 tickets or Football Season tickets or that family holiday or whatever their penchant is.
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