Wow youtubers too elite?

I was wondering the same. I have many 120s but I don’t do LFR on them.

Edit to add I see it’s just all 120s.

What are global Stat ?

Global Stats are Stats about all level 120 players, not only 2200+ or 4+/7 players.

Hi is there anyone that feel that wow youtubers are too elite in game in relation to what diffuculties they play, and claim as easy and this creates an skewed view of the playerbase from blizzards point of view.

I can’t answer the first part of your question because I honestly find most WoW Youtubers too cringy so I don’t watch them but for your second question.

I’d say no because there are various ways for the average player to give feed back to Blizzard such as through the forums or perhaps through their own Youtube channels and as others have pointed out it would be idiotic for Blizzard to listen solely to people like Nixxiom [for example].

when you have youtubers like taliesen and evitel that seemingly does normal version of a raid in one day and then go on to do heroic as the progression difficulty for them. in my opinion this makes them on a lot of issues too elite and removed from the “average” wow player when it comes to a lot of issues and topics.
This is because they play on higher diffuculty for in game stuff and are way more closer to esports wow players and mythic world first chasers than to “regular” players in their views on different stuff that comes up for discussion and therefore their voiced opinions might lead to changes made to wow that the more elite players might agree with, but the changes are generally terrible for people who don’t go around chasing the high/max diffuculty stuff in wow.

I disagree [mostly] but I think I understand what you mean and you’re right in the sense that their opinion would likely be vastly different from the “average” WoW player [as for why that would be I would disagree with you] but even if it is my above statement still applies.

In my opinion there hasn’t been a single good change since wotlk. That being said I think the best decision Blizzard has made in past 10 years was to make classic.

The difficulty of LFR comes from the people, not the content.
The people in LFR are as difficult as the bosses in heroic.

1.5 hours in the guild, normal we AFK’ed today with the aim of doing the meta, Grong didn’t even do damage and the healers were joking it was too hard. Especially normal should be able to be done by any competent group in 1 evening. If not, I have no words. HC is the old normal in the 1st place aswell:(

Is it gear? Skill? People simply slacking off extremely? Mechanics not being followed at all?

Sorry to say but people who are currently progressing heroic are average at best

Clearing normal is elite.

I guess people have different standards, that seems like a low one to me.

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current heroic is the old normal. So if you’re progressing heroic then you’re actually progressing what used to be normal and are thus a normal or ‘average’ raider. You can blame blizzard for making normal sound more difficult than it actually is.

It’s not though.
It might be average for raiders (and with raiders I mean people doing normal, heroic or mythic). But raiders themselves are NOT average. They are above average. There’s a BIG part of the playerbase that never steps into normal or higher raids. So overal I think you could say ‘normal’ is average difficulty wise, but content wise it wouldn’t even be, due to the number of players engaging in that content.

it isn’t the being able to clear normal that i meant is elite it is the ability to clear normal in one day and then go on to heroic and treat normal like it is nothing that i feel is the elite thing.

again. heroic raiding is VERY average, you being below average doesnt make heroic raiding any special.
its an average thing you do in life
simple statistic
36% of playerbase had ahead of the curve on argus - that meaning 36% FULLY cleared it, there’re also people who didnt fully clear it so that’s aproximately 40-50% at least, trying/doing heroic.
that-is-average.

its not, its a very normal thing to do.
elite thing is raiding 6 days a week.

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clearing normal or HC in 1 evening is not considered elite.
it may be average or above average, and you or your guild could consider these players/guilds more prepared than you, but there’s absolutely nothing abnormal in clearing a normal raid in 1 evening, even for casual social guilds.

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Again; for raiders maybe. Probably.
Not if you consider the whole playerbase.

And that 36% of yours; first of all where did you get that number.
Second; 36% is NOT average. It’s a little more than a third. It also doesn’t take into account a fairly sizeable part of those people who bought that achievement.

You can’t just tag on imaginary extra %'s and call it average. That’s not how it works.

Weren’t they (or still are) in a mythic progression guild? They didn’t raced for world first in any way but still quite high. Similarly for example Hazel - she may talk about pet battles but she is also in a mythic guild and does mythic raids.

Blizzard doesn’t look on youtubers. They look on statistical data and how some of their defined player brackets interact with given content.

Doubt 100% people agreed upon something. Also do note that everyone was reacting to something that Blizzard already committed to do. GCD change and many other things were disliked yet they were added to the game.

If Blizzard looked on youtubers that are class theorycrafters then we wouldn’t have to change the classes for few years at least :wink:

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Indeed even pugs can do nm clears in one evening.

If by quite high you mean 0/9 Mythic then sure. In their last weekly reset they stated that they couldn’t progress on heroic Mekkatorque because many of their guild didn’t use voice chat so they are really not a good example to use when it comes to elite wow players.

They had some guild drama some time ago - so I pointed it could be the past of their activity.

Do keep in mind that due to how gear was being ‘fed’ to players plenty of the guilds who do heroic raiding had atleast 380 ilvl (generally more due to titanforging.) The current normal raid’s ilvl drop is 385, so it isn’t unlikely that most guilds who raid these difficulties clear them relatively fast. The two weeks might be slow because you have to get used to the tactics, after that it becomes progressively easier.

For plenty of raiders if you have been doing the warfronts, emissaries and weeklies for gear you were pretty close to the point of outgearing normal ilvl requirements. Boss tuning seem to be lower now this tier than in previous tier.

Nah Bro, you’re making the OP’s point.

Think about it :thinking:

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Er, no.

How many Curve boosts did you personally sell? Or +10s for that matter? A lot of people buy Curve, especially late in a tier, when the boost is dirt-cheap, now that the Token fuels all. Pay. Accept a summ. Stand there for 10 minutes. Doesn’t mean they ever stepped foot in the raid otherwise.

The Curve figure there for Jaina is 7%. Watch that number balloon once the boost price goes sub-100K. :slight_smile: