This is not Vanilla its Sod. Premades suck and ruin the game.
Oh shut up nerf a whole class to get what YOU want??? I did solo q and we got thrashed and myself and another was a priest with bfd gear and we got stomped. Then I went premade and we won every one… Priest is not the problem.
There are still people who don’t wanna admit that premade ruin the game ? LOL
Most likely because they do premade themselves.
My position on the matter ?
I left SoD it’s been 1 week already (and I won’t come back that’s a no no) , because mainly interested in PvP , the Ashenvale event has been a complete letdown , and Warsong?
It’s completely unplayable 9 games out of 10 you’re matched against a premade full of priests and hunters. No thanks.
bye bye sod
I agree with OP. Fix this.
I am on the edge as well because of hard gatekeeping of pve content and the unplayability of pvp solo in WSG.
Wait to phase 2 when AB will be available. Premades will stay WSG so we will have actual random bg then. Unless Blizz do anything, but it seems unlikely. SoD seems to have a minuscule team with few ressources.
No its just that retailers simply dont understand how classic works. Its an actual mmorpg game what yes let you play solo but rewards players what group up with other players.
Classic puts you vs premades no becouse there isnt system to sort solo players and premades. Its intendent desing so players are forced to group up. Becouse game is mmorpg.
And if you dont like it and will rather quit. Then quit. This game simply isnt for you and you will rather have more fun playing different game.
Wouldn’t work, could create a big imbalance in the player pool.
Join a guild that plays PvP and form a premade with them as a 10 man raid, organize your team’s role (fc, team fight squad, and def) and you’ll notice a huge difference
I would rather wait 10,20,30 min than play vs premade.
Now you wait 3-6min in queue, 2min in preparation, 10-20 min for game to end.
Thats 20-30min being held hostage for no reward.
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If i want to 10 man “sweat” i can play rated on retail.
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Im playing since the release. I was on Stormscale-EU, Cyclone-Battlegroup was the most hardcore of them i believe. I NEVER encountered soo many premade in a week than i do now in a single day.
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Last but not least even if you got matched vs premade sometimes game was kinda playable, now you get GY-Camped and held hostage.
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[Edit] Forgot to add that 10man premade is not allowed on retail. Im guessing there is a reson behind it.
Pretty simple put a timer in WSG so atleast u lose in a proper amount of time instead of 1 hour+ wasted for 200 rep
Horde does the same. And premades face premades aswell. Its not only randoms vs prems contantly. Iam not defending this stupid system but noone forces ppl to play only solo que. Evryone can make a premade , its not something forbidden or taboo guys
Also most premades are not even that “skill”
Its all about having good gear and healers
What a great idea! I have one more for all those who cry about premades
When they separate solo q and premades start asking for MMR system because the 80% of todays premades are not going to happened and you will still strangle in bgs vs good players while you are waiting to get carred
They could just remove the cap for exalted from Ashenvale and let everyone just rush exalted who wants to. That would probably eliminate 80 % of the premades.
Wait…what???
So you’re actually admitting you just premade for stomping pugs and take the easy lazy route to ranking?
So when Blizz actually implements a Premade vs Premade system we wont see you again in bg’s because your to lazy?
And you’re also saying that pug players don’t play the game?
So only when you premade you’re playing the game?
Holy sht you’re dumb…
No you’re been carried by your teammates
Can people please stop to want everything to change except their behaviour?
I like the vibe with WoW battlegrounds, if other people team up and coordinate, why dont you do the same? People play together in an MMORPG and you want them to have a seperate que instead of giving them the benefit they deserve because they actually form groups and alliances with other players to achieve a common goal?
Teaming up and cooperating vs monsters is one thing, teaming up to GY camp random players is simply distasteful. It’s also a lot more demanding on the less sociable players than inviting/accepting an invite for an Elite kill quest.
Judging people for wanting a random 10v10 fight-in-the-middle BG queue is also weird. It’s one thing to say “sorry mate, this is the current game design, we do what we have to do” and move along, but implying that it would go against the “Classic” design/spirit is just cringe.
Also, people start to gradually afk more and more because they are starting to see how pointless it is to try in PUGs. If you are dead last in track & field every single day for a year, losing to pro runners, you would eventually lose the motivation to win, it’s simple human psychology. You could still enjoy the act of running, but probably not if you’re forced to do it (access to BiS/Pre-BiS gear).
That and GY camping.
You know whats also basic human psychology? To accept the fact that you need to adapt if you want to reach your goal (farming wsg efficiently and not getting run over).
There is nothing distasteful in being better and winning in a battle. And if getting into a group is too much of a task for you in an MMORPG then maybe you dont deserve to win and reach your goal.
Blizz should fox this. Make the premade and a pug seperate ques. Let premades fight premades and pugs fight pugs. Make a difference between 5 player premade and full party. 2 friends are just pug. Come on blizz!