Zandalari Tribe RPPVP server accidentally deleted

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Though the delete came because of the idea to delete servers. I do not know how exactly but I think it would have maybe created problems with one character somewhere else. Though in the end they delete characters, yes characters not unactivated clones, anyway.

You are not the only one.

I disagree. If they would have connected them, they could effectivly delete one of the servers either. The differences in language would have turned this into a bad idea anyway as you can see right now on Lakeshire. Maybe they could have connected Zandalar and HWL but the question is if the Zandalari would have been happy if they would still see maybe half to two third of the realm not PvP tagged and so not attackable. Because I understood for them some immersion is that they could attack or being attacked by anyone and that would for them like some big tauren in a lascivious dress would suddenly step onto the desk in the silvermoon inn and start dancing.

From my opinion what could have helped all RP Realms but you will likely not want (to hear) this. Interserver Automated Dungeongroupfinder. Because then you would be able combining the pleasant with the useful and so would have the atmosphere of the RP Server with the ability to at least run dungeons. The dungeons in WotLK would be for PvE a big alternative unlike TBC and so you could have at least this big part covered.
I heard from many on Razorfen “Yeah Celebras whas fine but the long search for Dungeon Groups made it unplayable in the long end.” I heard during mid TBC from someone else, that there where just to many dungeons in TBC for a small server like Celebras and that Classic had with BRD, UBRS, LBRS, Strat Living, Strat Dead, Maraudon and Diremaul the right amount of Dungeons where in TBC with Heroic mode the number whas to much.

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Nope. Because in that case, you would have been able to see, who is a Hydraxian Waterlords player (with english) and who speaks german (Celebras).

And those who can speak both, would have had more to play with, plus an more active Auction Hause.

Lakeshire is now the same as Hydraxian Waterlords: You can´t know who speaks german, and who speaks english.
But that´s not the case with the realm tags in the name.
And the german players would have joined Cele, because Cele would have been in the realm list.
I don´t thinkt that there was ever an alternative to either connect or kill one realm (at least for Blizzad), and killing is the worst option.
And if i remember correctly, after the devs offered HW, this was one of the main concerns - that there wouldn´t be any new german speaking players (and that´s true, most of the returnees now nevertheless leave).

Connecting Cele with HW > killing Cele.

I still hope they do it with the era ones… i see more players onlince, as there were in Juli/August. But i assume, most of them are english speaking anyway (but with RP conforming names).

The CRDF would have solved the dungeon issue, yes.
But not the “how to find new players for raids”, the empty AH, etc…

But I wouldn´t be surprised if CRDF would be added, and our realms died for nothing

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Okay you have a point.

Eh I disagree. With WotLK AND so the CRDF people would have then not stay on the megarealms with WotLK launch like a drowning guy on a rescue ring or the feeling of having to leave once the launch hype is gone to get content played so the hype of the start could then be finally used to revitalize Celebras.
But yeah about the Df I would not be surprised either.

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Default PvP servers should be RPPvP, maybe then there might be some honour involved instead of mindless ganking and grieving.

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I think most people would still choose a more crowded realm.
And we wouldn´t have wanted EVERYONE anyway.

But yes, maybe those who left would have stayed, and Blizzard might not have felt the need to kill unique realm types…

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I can hear my puppet childeren dying on the Hydraxian Waterlords PVE server.

Someone please save them, I need a hero, preferably horde. >:(

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Hey! My OG Horde server back in 2006. :sunglasses:

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He is kinda right tho about the degeneracy but i think this game does need RP servers regardless and there is nothing wrong with being a degen.

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Clear misrepresentation of a community. Even the RPers think that the ‘‘RPers’’ in Goldshire are weird.

You clearly misrepresent 95% of the RP community because of a few bad eggs.

What is going on in Goldshire isn’t considered real ‘‘roleplaying’’ by the roleplaying community.

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All of them might not be that degenerate but all of them are definitely cringe to me.

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If our thing is Night Elf Stripper Lapdancing Vampire Goddess Queens who are secretly dragons then Gl0dshire is where it’s at.

I suggest we just nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.

Back in Ye Good Olde Days of 2006 I did the famous Wetlands Gauntlet on my L13 Night Elf Hunter. The journey there remains one of my most cherished WoW memories, and after arriving in Gl0dshire and seeing so many people RPing I was kind of overwhelmed. Bear in mind I was still a learner, and not really aware of what constituted good RP back then.

Each evening for several days I’d log in in Dolanaar, run to the Flightmaster in Darnassus, fly to Darkshore, take the ship to the Wetlands, fly to Ironforge, and take the tram to Stormwind before running to Gl0dshire for the RP - and it felt really special, like preparing for an evening out in a cool nightspot that not many people knew about.

The sheen soon became tarnished though as I noticed the increasing amount of cringeworthy shenanigans and horrendous ERP from spotty-hormonal 14-year-olds. After being asked by a ‘bIt bY a VAMpIre lolol’ character for 20 silver for a lapdance I got the hell out and vowed never to set foot in the place again.

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The way they handled this is ridiculous. I wanted to come back for wrath. first thing I see is that the only RPPvP server has been deleted. Next thing I see is That I got moved to a rppve server. And the tip of the iceberg is that my free server transfer for my characters was and still is too some random German pve server(what?). I refunded my paid gametime because I instantly lost all interest in playing wrath.

As of today there is still no EU RPPVP server and the one the US side is locked and requires a separate subscription…

Please give me back Zandalar Tribe!

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It´s not “your” FCT. This transfer is sololy for the german roleplayers, because they murdered our realm (which was the biggest of all 3 RP Realms), too.

And then they moved everyone to an english realm. Since the language barrier is too high for many of us, they decided to open one FCT for us to move back to a german realm.
It´s Lakeshire because the majority of us went there.
This last FCT is only there due to kindness from Blizzard towards the german roleplayers, who were lost on a realm where they could not communicate.

Everyone (!) had two month to select from any random realm to move the characters on his own (i think only Firemaw was locked), before they murdered the realms, and they adviced, to use the transfers.

That being said, i am still of the opinion that they should have left our RP-Realms alone.
But well…

They won´t open new ones. Neither german, nor RP-PVP…

Oh, and the US one is locked. Even if you create a new account, you can´t create characters there

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Thanks for explaining

If we are loud enough they will

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RP servers probably open up far too many perceptions of outrage over benign words and sentences even though it’s all RP.

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You are welcome :slight_smile:

Unfortunately, i doubt it.

Back then, 2019 the german RP community WAS loud, for 2.5month. We turned the forum upside down, forum wars with people who didn´t want us to get “our” realm.
There was even a vigil who made sure, that the “we want a RP Realm” thread was always on top of the forum, the very first thread, event at night.

I am pretty sure, our CM back then helped us as good as possible - he and some GMs even reopened threads in the middle of the night, when the trolls closed them with mass wrong reporting.

Nevertheless - it took Blizzard 2.5 month of constant asking and begging from us, to open Celebras.
And then, it was too late. A huge bunch of people had already settled on another realm, and didn´t come anymore…

We always said, leave the FCT away open as long as you want, we don´t care. Because we were still happy, but we were not enough for them from a numbers point of view.
The german RP community was strong, strong enough to be happy, healthy and active on Cele, but the devs only looked for a minimum amount of players.

And during the realm murder last summer, the RP Community WAS loud, again. Alltogether i think 3-4k posts.
That´s the reason, why Hydraxian Waterlords is still there, because it was so tiny, that they first intended to kill Hydraxian Waterlords, too. It was an accident, they apparently did not intend to murder all RP realms in EU, but it almost happened.

When the RP community was outraged, they noticed their mistake, and decided to leave Hydraxian Waterlords open.

I can guarantee you, that the Zandalaris and Celebrasions didn´t give up.
But you can see the result in the realm list.

Nowadays, there is no CM left, who is responsible for EU. I doubt, that we would even be heared :frowning:
And a lot of roleplayers left already, because they didn´t find their realm anymore when they came back, or didn´t feel good on the other realms the dev left.

Not sure if there are enough left, to cause an outcry, especially since the last, loud one went unheared. :frowning:

I am now back on our Era realm with some people, rebuilding a community there.
I just hope, they will leave us alone on that realm…

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