My first hero with 13/13 primals

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NOW we finally understand one another. I agree to your terms, with the exception of Challenge Rifts and capping out at GR70.

To amend what I said earlier:

  • One Hero
  • One Season
  • No Group Games
  • No Challenge Rifts
  1. My current personal best GR is 110 non-season (GR100 in PTR 2.6.10) which I intend to get as close to as possible or to exceed in Season 22. So I’ll consider that to be the cap for myself.
  2. My intention was to take screenshots with every level up, Paragon gain, boss kill, rift guardian kill, every time I die, etc.
  3. I planned to take screenshots of the hero selection screen at the start of a session and at the end of a session, in order to document the total number of daily sessions and as well the singular progress made in that session, however long or short it may be…
  4. At the end of the last session of the day, a series of screenshots highlighting each equipped item.

Will the above be acceptable?

Amendment: It’s not a race.

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Well, I have no intention of not making use of a Challenge Rift cache at the start of the season, and once I’m 70 I’d definitely only do bounties in public split groups so, no, I don’t accept your amendment to the terms I offered. Would you still like to see the four things I mentioned?

Good luck with however you wish to play your season.

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The whole point really is to achieve character level 1-70, and then to proceed on to GR70+ Solo without the aid of group games, which logically includes split bounties.

It is now abundantly clear that your are unwilling, or perhaps even unable, to meat the requirements of the challenge.

Despite your unwillingness to fully accept my challenge of starting Season 22 and to reach specified goals 100% solo, I intend to proceed as planned. I do so in order to redeem myself on these forums and to prove once and for all that your claims of me being a liar are false and that you are a hypocrite.

All the best of luck to you in Season 22 being carried to high solo achievements with the help of your friends in group games.

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I was extremely specific that the four challenges I set, i.e. levelling 1-70, Chapter I-IV completion, T16 rift completion and GR70 (or higher) completion would all be 100% solo and that only after that would I partake in group bounties. The bounties I’d do as part of Chapter tasks would be done solo, as part of the 1-70 levelling.

I am completely able to meet the requirements of the challenge I set. You want to set a different challenge, which is one I’m uninterested in. You initially expressed that it’s difficult for a purely solo player to unlock primals, i.e. by completing a GR70 solo.

The four items in the challenge I set would expressly get to that unlock, all done completely solo. Apparently proving that can easily be achieved 100% solo still isn’t enough to satisfy you. Oh, well.

How will you playing Season 22 completely solo change the fact that you lied about having done so in a previous season?

Ha, ha, ha. Just for giggle, take a look at my Season 21 hero - TwentyOne - and give me your best estimates of these things…

  1. Highest solo GR completed
  2. Highest 2-man GR completed
  3. Highest 3-man GR completed
  4. Highest 4-man GR completed
  5. Total hours played in the season
  6. Total number of Rifts / GRs done in the season
  7. Total number of Bounties done in the season
  8. When did I unlock primals?
  9. When did I unlock Guardian?

Once I’ve seen your guesses, I’ll show screenshots of the actuality.

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There is absolutely no challenge in that “achievement”, unless it’s a question of doing it fastest - but you said yourself that it’s not a race. Anybody can level up to 70 and gr levels far above 70 alone without help of groups or challenge caches. I’ve done it many times and I usually take my time and do it slowly, compared to others.

Those are despicable words from a person that seems full of malice. I know it’s because you have a grudge against Meteorblade because you’ve been exposed by him. Instead of acknowledging the fact that you were wrong and get on with it, you just seem to dig yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.
Of course he’s not unable. He just doesn’t wanna spend unnecessary time leveling up. And knowing his history he’s not being “carried” in group games - more often he spends a lot of time carrying others.

The fact is that you have failed to live up to a very simple task (even simpler because of the season theme in season 22).

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Well a little smoke up his a*s will do wonders for his epeen… Come on Jazz, when will this hero worshipping be done?

Need some drool?

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I have been exposed by him? Laughable really, considering he has exposed himself in this thread…

The grudge against him that you claim I have started when he (and later, yourself) claimed I lied about achieving a solo personal best. I believe the claim was that my character clearly showed the use of Legendary Gems of a grade much higher than the personal solo best I had achieved.

I have long since explained that I had achieved my solo goals of that season (which was Season 13 if I recall) and went on to try a couple of group games and greater rifts. I was then afterwards able to push my personal solo best up a little further by a few levels.

But isn’t that what this entire thread is about? He claims to be able to solo a hero within a couple minutes when equipped with all primal items. Just exactly where did all those primal items come from? From Solo play? Or did he have help in group games with GR runs and bounties?

This is my entire argument against Meteorblade! When I marginally push my own personal solo best GR levels after some minor help of friends in a few group games, and make forum posts about it, then I’m called a liar and branded as a pariah. When he makes posts about just about the same thing (levelling up a hero within 10 minutes using gear and experience acquired in group games), then everyone throws him a ticker tape parade and worships the ground he walks on.

His failure to accept the challenge of starting and completing Season 22 purely solo, with no assists from group games of any kind or challenge rift boosts is indicative of his hypocrisy.

Despicable words full of malice? But aren’t yours and Meteorblades accusations of me being a liar precisely the same thing? That is the very definition of hypocrisy.

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These primals were collected over a long time from several season. He doesn’t claim that they were collected in any special way (solo or group play). The subject is not about bragging, it’s just for the fun of it showing what you can do with a collection of various primals.

Some people have thrown negative comments about him in this thread. And, again, this thread was not made to brag (at least as I read it) it was just made for the fun of it.

There is no “failure” on his behalf. Either you don’t know the meaning of the word “failure” or you’re deliberately being scornful and malicious when there is no basis for being it. You don’t accept his terms for the challenge and he doesn’t accept your terms. That’s all there is to it. Leveling from 1 to 70 with the use of a challenge rift cache and getting to GR 70 and doing the first four chapters of season journey by doing some group bounties isn’t really something to be scared of.

If you’d just said something like “okay you’re right. I wasn’t 100% solo in the season. I did do some group runs but it was still the best I had ever achieved in a season,” then nobody would have been on your back. But you have a history of being (admittedly) stubborn and sometimes clinging to wrong ideas and perception of things about this game.

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Once again, the problem was not that you made a brag thread, but that you lied in the brag thread.

Did you miss the screenshots in this very thread of me solo-levelling a hero, at T6, from 1-70 in under six minutes? See the difference here? I can back up my claims with evidence.

From many, many months of playing, mostly solo on my WW/Rend Barb.

In the current era, i.e. 2020-1, my highest GR clearances are…
Solo Barb - GR129
Solo Crusader - GR112
Solo DH - GR122
Solo Monk - GR100
Solo Necro - GR100
Solo WD - None
Solo Wiz - None
2-man - GR125
3-man - GR94
4-man - None

Current era’s been going for two seasons I think, i.e. about seven months. So, where’s all this high level group play you claim I’ve benefit from? I play mostly solo, and occasionally boost / carry other people.

You were called a liar because you claimed to have played 100% solo when you hadn’t.

I offered you challenge, which you didn’t accept.
You offered me a challenge, which I didn’t accept.

Your original premise was that it was hard to unlock primals by playing 100% solo. My challenge to you was to level a hero from 1-70 solo, complete Chapters I-IV of the Season Journey solo, complete a T16 rift solo, and to complete a GR70 (or higher) solo. The challenge was therefore to demonstrate that it was incredibly simple to unlock primals by 100% solo play.

That was my challenge to you, which you declined.

I’m offering to back up my claims with evidence and screenshots.
You made claims, which we proved to be false with screenshots.

I offer to show proof.
You’ve been proven to have made false claims.
Trying to play these off as the same is the hypocrisy.

By the way, I see you studiously ignored my post about my S21 Demon Hunter.
Here are the details anyway

  1. Highest solo GR completed = GR103
  2. Highest 2-man GR completed = GR89
  3. Highest 3-man GR completed = GR80
  4. Highest 4-man GR completed = GR80
  5. Total hours played in season = 43 hours 21 mins
  6. Total number of Rifts / GRs in the season = 149
  7. Total number of bounties in the season = 291
  8. Primals unlocked = 4th July (day 2 of the season)
  9. Guardian completed = 6th July (day 4 of the season)

Screenshots… https://imgur.com/a/HF0Xm7f

You’ll notice that my highest solo clearance is 14 GRs higher than any of the group runs. That’s because the group runs were as a result of me giving people boosts. I offered to give them 1-70 boosts and if they’d hit 70 before the guardian spawned, they’d get a GR key, so I’d offer them a GR run afterwards to get them some paragon / bloodshards to help them on their way through their season.

How about all those rifts / GRs? Does 149 sound like a lot? Well, at T16 you get 3 GR keys guaranteed, with 50% chance of a 4th, so 10 T16s will average you 35 GR keys. Now some of those 149 will have been during my 1-70 levelling. Let’s say 30 of those runs were T16 runs, that’d get enough keys for 105 GRs. That’s 135, and the rest would be rifts I did on the 1-70 levelling. Sounds about right.

Okay, how about those 291 bounties. Sounds like a lot, right? Well, 25 of those were done solo, during the 1-70 levelling, as they’re needed for tasks within the Chapters I-IV. The rest were done at level 70, after Chapters IV, in split public groups. I did this for multiple reasons, i.e. to get enough materials to extract 40 powers into the Cube (for the Season Journey tasks on the way to Guardian) and because I used the method of opening bounty caches to obtain the Conquest for a 50 million gold streak. At T16, that needs 31 caches. As each split group gets 5 caches, that’s seven split groups. (Remember, I got this stuff done long before they turned on the double bounties buff part-way through the season).

Well, in a split group, whilst each player only does 6-7 bounties, 25 bounties get completed in total. That means each split group run gives 25 to the count of bounties done in a season. So, that’s 25 solo. Seven group runs = 7 * 25 = 175. That’s 200. The other 91 is effectively another 3 full group runs and a partial run. So, 25 solo bounties (whilst levelling 1-70) and 10-11 split groups (once 70 and after I have done Chapter IV and completed a GR75).

To summarise…
Your claim = it’s hard to unlock primals without group play
Actuality = it’s trivial, and multiple people have told you so

By the way, it’s going to be even easier in Season 22…

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Just a comment on that. I’m sorry that you feel this way. This forum shouldn’t be about attacking each other and that old story really should be water under the bridge by now. It’s true that you get a lot of opposition because your ideas about the game often go against what is generally accepted as “efficient”.

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Do you recall the thread I posted oh so long ago saying that I had achieved a personal solo best? Did I not post that thread for the fun of it? And do you recall the extent of the negative responses I got because of it?

How is it that I am not permitted to make posts of my own achievements for the fun of it, but Meteorblade can? Do you see why I’m persistently belligerent towards him? His own double standards.

Listen to yourself! I have said it many times before, and even repeated again in this very thread, that I had then already achieved a personal solo best prior to doing the group GR runs. Except Meteorblade and his followers seem to think that I was initially carried in group games before achieving my solo best. The group games that “is being used as evidence against me” where used as a means to try and break through the brick wall I had encountered in having already achieved my seasonal solo best.

Yes, I am a stubborn man. Yes, we all have very different ideas about the game. But neither one of us has the right to claim that their ideas and perceptions are right and another’s are wrong. Meteorblade seems to be under the mistaken impression that his word is gospel. He wants everyone to plays by his rules, but as soon as someone wants him to play by theirs, then he shies away.

This is what you do not seem to understand.

I laid down the challenge of One Hero, One Season, No Challenge Rifts, No Group Games in an attempt to level the playing field so that all who accepted the challenge can do so on and equal footing from start to finish.

The response, in hindsight, was entirely expected.

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The challenge from me was to play Season 22 with one hero only, with no group games of any kind and no challenge rifts. The idea of the challenge was to meet or exceed our own personal solo best, which for me is currently GR110 off-season, and for you is between GR100 and GR129 depending on what class you choose.

So lowered the expectations of the challenge by bringing it down to GR70 and completing the season journey.

My challenge still stands. Meet or exceed our own off-season solo GR best in the limited time of a season using only one hero from start to finish, without the aid of challenge rifts or group games of any kind whatsoever. Those are the conditions of the challenge.

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Where you and others see in me inefficiency, I see difference.

This is the real problem, isn’t it? Everyone wants to be the same, and then frown upon anyone who dares to be different.

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You did not receive negativity for posting a brag thread.
You received negativity for lying in the thread and we proved you’d done so.

You’re entirely permitted to make brag threads for the fun of it.
The difference is that I don’t make claims in my threads that are false.

My standard is to not lie in my threads.
We had proof that you don’t always meet that standard.

Are rules like not lying in posts an odd standard to expect people to meet?

Yeah, and that’s a challenge I didn’t accept because it’s woefully slow and inefficient to run solo bounties and would also prevent me doing one of the things I enjoy most during a season, i.e. offering other people help by giving them 1-70 boosts or GR carries for some gear / bloodshards.

No. Once again, the problem isn’t brag threads, it isn’t you playing differently, it’s you claiming something which we proved to be false.

Good luck with exceeding GR110 on whichever class you play, however you play, whether solo or not, in Campaign Mode or Adventure Mode, with or without a Challenge Rift cache.

By the way, having seen on the PTR which Conquests will be available in Season 22, I’m really intrigued to see which you’re going to attempt with only a single hero. Two of the Conquests are easy to do (GR45 solo with no set items, Boss Mode) but the third one I did was to do a GR55 solo with six different set armours (which, obviously, meant I did five on one class and one on another). As that one won’t be available to you, and you obviously can’t do either of the easy ones on a hardcore hero, that leaves you trying stuff like completing the entire Campaign (Acts I-V inclusive) within an hour.

Good luck.

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The latest example of this difference is when you talk about starting each season with playing through the campaign and make it sound as if that’s the way the game should really be played (to my ears at least).

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And how times do I have to state that prior to joining a few group games for Greater Rifts boosts to help increase my Legendary Gems, I had already by then achieved a new personal best?

Yeah, yeah, whatever you say. The challenge was NOT about doing it quickly. It was entirely about doing it solo, without help of any kind.

The real translation is this: *I’ve tried and failed to discredit Prometheus in the past, and his challenge to me might actually strengthen his own case, so I’ll not accept the challenge. *

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GOLDFARM ON!!! I hope blizzard is going to listen to you, like they listened mobile-diablo3-guy(don’t you have phones?(blizzcon)) and make goldfarm endgame because of you.

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so much bla bla bla and fight for fking pixels!

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Isn’t this explanation something you’ve only started saying recently?

… and it doesn’t even require luck or much skill or dedication. I started season 21 very late. Played just one GOD DH all solo, made it slowly through Guardian to get the pet (the three conquests were manageable). Highest GR is a 111 and I’m around 1000 paragon points by now. I haven’t pushed, so this is not about bragging. I’ll probably go for a Necromancer season 22 if Bone Spear is not nerfed. Leveling up a character in season 22 should be quite easy with a Challenge cache, an equipped legendary, the cube (maybe not even that?) and farming shrines and pylons.

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Season 13 was a long time ago, so in as much as no-one has proven that I lied can I positively prove that I didn’t.

Or is this a case of we should take your word for it that I lied, but I cannot be taken seriously when I reciprocate in saying that I didn’t?

This is not about you and me, it’s about the inability of Meteoblade to accept that he may be wrong about me. Even so, it would appear that you have pulled a Meteor and made claims without backing them up:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jGPoAyVjRW_pglbuyw2SrjCLihag3Flf?usp=sharing

Odd really, that anyone and everyone who make blustering claims against the casuals on the forums have a tendency to hide their profiles…