The problems with Über Lilith

Über Lilith has the worst mechanism in the game. This opponent is not hard or difficult. This is simply stupid.

You can notice there are some problem with a boss when your players not playing the mechanics, but skipping them. Check out any Über Lilith videos on Youtube and you will notice that players actually just over-damaging her with cheesy OP characters, forcing her to skip those annoying mechanics.

Lilith has so many attacks that can one-shot you. This is not the problem, but it is almost impossible to defeat her if you are playing the mechanics. By the 2nd half of phase 1 she spawns 3 adds. If you kill those adds, they will pop-out 6 (!) of those deadly blood boils. If you cannot pop any of those in time, it will 1-shot you. Meanwhile Lilith will keep spamming those spike waves. So it is 7 1-shot mechanism at the same time which you have to deal with. Your character must have high movement and high AOE damage at the same time.

This is just stupid.

In addition there are these bugs since the game release:

  1. The camera bug. When you die during the part when the adds are spawned, the camera remain zoomed in. You respawn, but you have to fight with a zoomed camera.
  2. The lights are bugged too. If your gear is broken and you portal back to the town to fix it. When you go back to Lilith all the lights are red. You can notice it specially on the ground. It will be more difficult to notice the wave indicators on the dark reddish ground.

So Über Lilith is simply annoying. You cannot defeat her by actually playing the game. You have to start a cheesy broken OP character which can deal 10+ million damage so you can kill Lilith before she actually starts those annoying mechanics. Please, explain to me, how this is fun? the game actually rewards you to skip mechanics not to play them.

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Amen to that! I’ve tried such “tips and hints” found around various sites, and none worked. I completely reskiled the caracter 3 times with both aspects, and paragon points. No chance. So I have given up uber bosses for now…

yes, it is a problem, cause this game is not Super Mario Bross but an aRPG, where one-shot mechanics shall not exist and of course… devs shall not intentionally create them… OMG!

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I have got passed phase one but died in phase two but cannot do phase one now because she has changed her tactics. This is totally bad and stupid that she one hits from everywhere.

I’m ok with oneshot mechanics, but they must have very clear telegraph graphics and enough time to avoid them.
The changes i would see are that the spikes and stomp areas of damage are more visible and make them slower

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As of today, 21 December 2023, I have tried on two different characters/classes to kill Uber Lilith. Both characters are level 100 and well geared. I burn her down quite quickly to the point that she has maybe 1% left and she flies up and when she lands, the camera zooms in and it is impossible to see any of her attacks. I can barely see the floor as it is completely covered in her attacks and during that mess, I am not able to beat the mechanics as I can’t see anything but, the blackness of her spells going off and then I am dead. Seems that this has been going on for quite sometime so, I do NOT see it being fixed for the season.

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There is no bug here, the camera zooms in/out between phases. While it can be difficult to see things when your brain is concentrating on gameplay, you’re massively overexaggerating how hard it is to see things. The waves also have the same handful of patterns that can be handled the same way every time.

The one thing that is always important is to be at the edge of the circle when she’s going to spawn a wave, so that you have the most amount of free space in the arena. Always run boots with movement speed and +2 evade charges. If you play one of the many builds that can kill her quickly, you can even avoid having to do any mechanics.

I killed her at level 93, not having to do mechanics. The reason you don’t have to do mechanics is because they reduced her health by something crazy like 80%. It was meant to be a hard challenge, now it’s extremely easy because even if you didn’t 1 shot her, you can bypass most of the mechanics and don’t have to learn the patterns.

Easy way to kill Lilith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVTlkhgZAA&t=20s

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My monitor zooms all the way in and never comes back out. I have seen many others having this problem and if the designers meant this, then it isn’t a bug. But, in every video I see online, it is zoomed out and looks awesome. Being able to see the crap thrown onto the screen by Lilith would be super.

I’ve never seen that happen and I have like 600 pulls on Uber Lilith, going back to when she was hard. Are you sure you’re not just hitting the zoom in button? Disable it.

I’m usually all for difficulty barriers but Lilith’s mechanics is so unbearable I just lost all the will to play the game.
This reason and also because there’s absolutely no class balance in the game.

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I had been enjoying D4 until I started banging my head fruitlessly against Lilith.
It’s a bizarre business decision by Blizzard, to lead us to this fight via the priority quest system as if it’s the end boss, but it turns out to be some hard 500ms-reaction-speed check which is nigh-on impossible for a majority of players. I recorded my deaths to try to analyse what I’m doing wrong, and there’s 680 milliseconds between the start frame of the floor marks for the wall of spikes and the start frame of my ghost spawning. That’s a bit harsh, in my opinion. I’m not so young anymore - I’m in the demographic that Blizzard normally wants to keep playing the game (full-time employed i.e. I have more money than time and am as such inclined to pay for express passes). But I simply do not have the reaction speed to beat her mechanics, and as such the fight is a complete morale-breaker that makes me close the game and find something else to play rather than carry on playing and (pay for the next season’s pass). Reading various online forums, it’s clear that I’m not the only person to feel this way, so Uber Lilith in her current form is doubtlessly losing Blizzard money.

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Just get good, bros. Like someone told earlier: Super easy boss.
What u do is u click “chat” and select “barbarian”. Then u open the boss window and put the barbarian there. Success. Idk how u can fail this skill check. And it’s so fun and social too. Like when I run this boss I always feel satisfied.

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I think in phase one every so often it happens that the center of a move if such that there’s no avoiding getting hit by something. Like, if I dodge the right way I’d end up outside the circle, but the other way is too far away to actually dodge… (also seeing which direction the wave comes from is at time difficult for the middle wave).

And phase two, idk, 20 homing one shot skulls coming from 4 different direction seems a bit much perhaps? Also no idea how her vacuum even works at this point, I got sucked in and couldn’t escape and then died from something (though no idea what even).

So while I think the fight’s theme and atmosphere are cool, and the moves when they work are fair, there’s too many hiccups to enjoy the fight fully and mechanics aren’t even understandable at times or hard to see (like I didn’t even see the flaming skulls the first 5 times, only after watching a video on it, I realized that that’s what hit me, since it’s red on red).
So idk, I wish they’d go over it again and fix both the visuals and the moves such that each move is always actually dodgable

I never killed uber lilith because of stupid one shot. I dont waste time to do it and design is quite bad! Dont do it next time and it is not part of Diablo IV. Remember it is not World of Warcraft! FIX Lilith, thanks!

almost every s tier build one shoot lilith … get good stop cry or learn to dodge her spikes

Also spawns block paths needed to evade at random. Like blood boils or enemies that stand around will just make it impossible to even evade the right way. Pls fix

Also bugs that spawn waves after she already transitions to phase 2

Lilith was modified yes so you cant skip every single of her mechanics but it’s still faceroll and every class with any spec can pretty much do it lol.
Yes , the boss has a very dumb design now but come on , it’s easy.
Phase 1 - Rush her to 0 and you just have to dodge her spikes ONCE when she flies or use immunity if you have. Get near the edge behind the middle spike and you’re good
Phase 2 - Rush her down and she will begin all her P2 mechanics in order. You need to dodge every single platform like before but now she does spawn the blood boils that spawn the flying blood or how it’s called. So the only difference is that you need to dodge her flying blood that’s it , dodge those 3 times , 3 platforms and she dies. Btw, the flying blood is tankable , wont one shot you , at least I could tank 2 with my sorc with Ice Armor on so yeah , it’s faceroll with 2 pieces of tank gear with proper aspects ( Head , Chest) , if you feel squishy get pants aswell and I`m certain no one will have problems.

I can confirm that the camera zoomed in bug is still in the game on PC, haven’t tried on console yet.