I confirm that you are correct.
I tested with a Paladin Agro deck and my opponents miraculously changed depending on deck set up.
Algorithms. It’s that simple. There is no RNG.
I’m sorry, but the idea that some algorithm decides the winner or loser of match on a coin flip is utterly preposterous.
By that reasoning, if a game suddenly decides at the onset, that I should win the match, then I can do nothing at all and play random cards of no value or significance and I’ll be the victor with minimal effort. That’s nonsense.
The game is driven by player input, not some hidden contraption.
You are being matched against other human opponents, and you both try to do your best to win the game. The player who knows how to best adapt to his opponent’s board and play style will be the winner.
Sure, sometimes an opponent will triumph because of a lucky discover, but that’s because he actually decided to play the discover card and calculated his mana expenditure in the process so that in the event that he doesn’t discover anything immediately useful, he’ll have a flexible backup plan.
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The algorithms don’t decide on a coin flip.
There are many factors that influence the decision.
How much real money does a player spend? Is the player a recognized streamer? (Streamers play opponents much lower rank than them and are often gifted wins.) What is the player’s win ratio? Remember that Blizz has openly stated that they want a 50% win ratio for all players.
Those are just a few.
If the algorithms have decided that you are the chosen one and you decide to play like an Amoeba on purpose then of course you will lose the game. But you can’t blame anyone except yourself for that.
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Where’s the proof of this?
The proof is on YouTube.etc.
If you watch streamers like Kripparian, Shadybunny, JeefHS etc and you look passed the 3 Golden T6 minions on turn 5, you will quickly realize that their opponents suck.
Focus on their opponents and how they play. I watched JeefHS, who is supposed to be one of the best HS players in the world play and on Turn 12 his opponents largest minion was a 10/10 token. Turn 12.
Surely someone with a 10k ranking should be playing the best players the world has to offer, every time.
It’s so obvious that it’s sad.
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You do realize that the streamers only upload their most successful runs. What’s the point of uploading a run that resulted in failure?
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The game is 100% rigged and very obvious.
What shocks me is the amount of people that claim it isn’t. It’s like they are removed of any pattern recognition skills or logic.
They must be playing standard queue only and zoo decks and cant see the patterns. If you play wild and any off-meta deck it’s VERY OBVIOUS it’s 100% RIGGED. Like OP said, if you played any magic the gathering and experienced chunk draws you know what RNG is and isn’t. Hearthstone is 100% rigged and predetermined, it’s like comparing WWE wrestling to a real fight
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When we say the game is rigged we are not saying that if you are chosen by the ‘system’ then you will win no matter what.
If you are playing BG and you sell all your minions then of course you will lose.
No, the rigging happens in the cards that you are offered in the tavern. I am talking about BG now.
By turn 8 it is obvious that your tavern is just useless to you. If example, you are playing Mechs and you get no Mechs. However, your opponents have T6/7 golden minions on Turn 6.
I see this every single BG game. Every single game. No exceptions. Zero exceptions. Null. Every game one player/team wins the lottery and you get squashed.
You can do nothing about this. Nothing.
Blizzard must implement a concede function without penalties on Turn 8. Why keep on playing if you can’t do anything.
you know your on a losing game at very 1st combat , look at how many times your 1st opponet is unbeatable ,like al’akir with a 3 atk minion or greybough/LK with a death rattle , then compare those events to when you get the same hero’s honestly its laughable that there are player out there defending this crap
True. When I play Greybough I don’t get Deathrattles. Maybe the first one on turn 8.
Same goes for tribe specific heroes. If you play a mech hero, you get no Mechs. If you play the Quill boar hero, first QB on turn 8.
That’s why I don’t play those heroes. Guaranteed loss.
I think blizzard is one of the most vile gangs on this planet who think that their stupid deception will help them make money… although you still bring them money
some do yeah , many dont though ive not spent a single penny on this game in about 5 years after it was clear the game is P2W i stopped
To anyone claiming that there is an algorithm that constrains you to a 50% winrate:
you do realize that this would be INSANELY stupid by blizzard?
Reasoning: you eliminate the incentive for players to spend money.
No matter how much you spend to get better decks, you will always stay at 50%, get frustrated and quit.
Truth is: ELO systems are designed to match you up with an opponent of similar skill level. So after some time, when the ELO system has enough data you will always end up with a winrate of approximately 50%.
Further disproval of your conspiracy: Take any high level player and put them on a new account. By your theory they should get stuck somewhere. But i can guarantee you: They will not get stuck. Why?
Because they are better than you. I know people dont like that idea and always LOVE to look for excuses but as someone already said: Most people (apparently including you) are just average. Nothing wrong with it.
No one has claimed that there is an algorithm that forces 50% W/L. I don’t know where you get that from.
Blizzard has publicly stated that they want players to have that ratio. It’s not a secret. How they do it can only be speculated on.
The algorithms that determine which cards you are offered in the Tavern is the problem. That and horrific matchmaking.
Regarding the top players, they must not play on a brand new account to prove anything.
No, they must play the games that we play. I.e. they must face opponents that have golden T6 on turn 5. Every single game. They must play duos and be teamed with players who don’t even know how to play or sell up. Every single game.
Then your so called top players will not even get 5k. I mean, if they are so good it shouldn’t be an issue…
If you spend time watching streamers you will quickly understand that they don’t play according to our rules.
I am willing to team up with any top players in duos and I will not play any cards and then I want to see them hit 10k.
After that, you will apologize on the forum for your post.
still claiming this is a skill game ehhh ??? hate to point this out but its really not !! Any game that has any sort of RNG factor to it cant be considered a skill game
Tell that to poker players.
poker is not a skill game , reading the opponent is the skill part somthing im actually very good at but that doesn’t change the fact that if i dont get the cards no matter what i do i cant win you can only bluff and fake so much b4 you inevitably get beat
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But the reading is also part of poker, is it not? It’s called a “poker face” for a reason. You need that to do well at poker. You can’t just dismiss something that is part of the game to reinforce your argument.
and the difference with poker is your sat across from your opponent not on the other end of a screen
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How is that relevant? Besides, online poker tournaments with mandatory webcams are a thing.