"This deck/archetype has 55+ winrate" is a lie

I’ve been playing this game for a very long time. All these youtube content creators or all these card deck websites should be sued for false promotion and false information.

I’ve played numerous decks that claim to be 55%+ winrate at all levels of playing and they all claim to be meta. In fact, from my personal experience, I have 20% winrate with such decks. No matter how I try, the opponent always hacks the way to get the cards they need when I never ever get any combo or needed card.

Stop spreading false information like some decks/archetypes are high winrate and top tier when it fact it’s bs.

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I have a similar problem with HSReplay decks :smiley: Well, in my case, it is because of me being a bad player.

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Thank you for being a bastion against the argument that the game is p2w.

How many games are you playing? You can’t play 10 games and expect the win rate to be accurate. You need to play a lot of games.

I also find I am better with some classes then others oddly. Mage, Priest, Paladin and Shaman I tend to play really well with.

Rogue and Warrior I tend to not be so good. I don’t l ow why, especially Rogue, I have tried most of the decks but can’t seem to master that class. I keep trying though.

Just thought I would add, I avoid DH as I don’t like the play style of vomiting my cards on the board and hitting face.

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I think Jaguarpaw has some good points here.

I think it is important to understand how the deck works, what is the win condition, how to mulligan when facing different classes. It is also good to know the meta - what other decks contain, what can they play at which turn.

And of course, you may not be comfortable with some play styles. For example, I do not like aggro style much and have problems with that.

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That isnt a guaranteed win rate you know, you have to be able to pilot the deck.

Just cos you can wear Messi`s football boots doesnt mean you play like him.

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You do have to consider that the 55+% winrate is based on thousands of games, played by a large variety of players. That could even mean that half the people that play that deck have a 100%WR and the other half 0% and you would have a 50%WR deck based on statistics alone. When you see a win rate it doesn’t mean that anyone who uses the deck will have that result, it’s based on a whole community playing.
You should even consider the factors mentioned by others, like your capability of playing such decks. In my personal experience i’m good with Control Decks and love that playstyle, but when it comes to Tempo i’m much weaker. A class i’m terrible at is Shaman most of the time, don’t even know why, just not my thing maybe.
Another factor you have to consider is the matchups. I have a 63%WR Aggro Hunter deck that is really good, except when i meet other Aggro Decks that manage to rush faster than me thanks to resources, or heavy control decks well constructed. Your deck, in a balanced idea, will have archetypes that are strong or weak against it, and again, have to consider how you’re able to play against them.
So many things to consider, don’t rely just on a shiny number and most importantly don’t rely just on others to win. From the way you speak, if a deck is good, you don’t even need to be good to win, cause the data says so. You do have to play it and learn it of course, and most of the time it takes a few losses to understand. It’s not an automatic process.

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Yeah yeah, sure, be a clueless animal who thinks like that.

A raptor calls others animals? :slight_smile:
It is ok if you do not believe that, but the truth is that some decks really require a knowledge of how to use them to get a better win rate.

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At least i’m a “clueless animal” who is enjoying the game and doesn’t complain about something quite logical like statistics. And surely not a nice attitude when someone is trying to give you an explanation and help, you know xD. But sure, keep thinking like you please, i’m sure that your winrates will improve. And if i may give a last suggestion, try and be more nice to people, it will improve your social skills.

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Yeah yeah, 10 hours playing Hearthstone for 2 days with a deck that claims to be 55+ in an archetype and getting only 12% winrate, sure :).

Lie more.

Also, my social skills are enough to harass you the way I want and claim you, all those sites with “meta decks” and all those youtubers are lieing.

Seems that this person does not want to improve :slight_smile: Or maybe, it is already the best it can ever be :slight_smile:

…12% is less than I got playing Maxima Tonk Hunter to get the 500 Tonk damage achievement whilst paying partial attention.

How much exp is that achievement worth?

100+100+500 XP, more, if you have the paid Pass
And I do this achievement without Maxima. I use Animated Broomstick, Oblivitron, Trueaim Crescent and Nine Lives instead and it works quite well. I am at 400 dmg now.

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700XP (I think it’s 100, 100, 500).

But I had fun doing it whilst watching a friends stream. It’s not good, but sending the Tonk to the face is definitely fun :smile:

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As i mentioned above, its not a guaranteed win rate, YOU need to pilot that deck to the win

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If the chap is only getting a 12% win rate with a deck that’s supposedly 55% win rate after playing 20 hours, something is not right.

20 hours is about 80 games if we assume 4 games an hour.

A. The deck in question really is garbage to obtain such a low rating after 80 games. One could question how the 55% win rate was advertised.

B. The chap piloting the deck is utter garbage and can’t play the game.

Personally if I am trying a net deck, I tend to get a sense of it suits my play style. As I mentioned above, some classes I just can’t play.

I’ve tried Taunt warrior which is supposed to be a solid deck. Out of 4/5 games, I lost all games so that’s down to me playing bad, not the deck. There is enough evidence available to say the deck is a good deck so we can deduce I’m crap playing that deck. I don’t know why though.

My main two decks are running at over 60% win rate so I stick to what I know when climbing the ranks.

Perhaps if I did put in two 10 hour stints, I could get better with the warrior deck, who knows, I’ve given up for now, need to focus on the ladder now.

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Considering his mindset and his attitude, i’m not surprise he has such a low WR. I mean, 12% is really low, not even my “No Minion Quest Mage” that i play just for fun and completing the spell quest is still at 40% xD.

But again, if this is his way of having fun, sure. As if i could care more than i already did xD i’m so harassed i cannot sleep at night now, poor me.

Out of curiosity, what deck are you running and what rank were you at when you played your two days at 20 hours?

I find Diamond 10 - Diamond 5 the hardest part of the ladder. Which is odd because you’d think it would be D5 - legend.