A new gaming mouse

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So after almost a decade or so I decided I would like to upgrade my trusty Logitech RX250 to a brand new gaming mouse. The problem is that most of the devices have a buttload of unnecessary buttons for which I have no use for, and they mainly distract me.

Could you guys recommend any simple devices which have few buttons and they wouldn’t cost $100 / 100e?

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Steelseries Sensei 310 or Rival 310. Best sensor I’ve ever had, and quite minimalistic.

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I highly recommend CORSAIR M65 Pro RGB especially when it’s down to 35$ right now in Amazon US (it can ship to EU).

Also you can’t go wrong with Logitech G502 and Razer DeathAdder Elite!

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A warning regarding Razer though is that the software is notorious for breaking Overwatch :slight_smile:

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Better than Roccat. Their software breaks everything since it will just completely stop to work. :joy:

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Thanks for all the replies, the Steelseries Sensei 310 seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.

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I’m using it, after getting tired of my Sensei Raw. Suddenly I can use 1600cpi on the desktop aswell, which is nice since I use that and 2.5 sens when playing. And believe me, it does wonders for your hitscan accuracy.

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Cool, maining Zarya atm so I bet will become handy.

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Been using the Logitech G502 for half a year now.
Great mouse.
I also like some heft to my mouse, so the adjustable weights are a big plus for me.
The software is also fairly good

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If you want a braided cord, for some reason, go with the Rival instead. Same sensor, same weight, similar shape. But I love the Sensei.

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Razer deathadder is 100$ or less.
Best mouse for overwatch.
You can spend the extra money you saved on a bungy mouse cable holder and a huge mouse pad.
You can swap dpi on the go on widow when no one is near me i use 400 dpi for long distance sniping but when they are near me u can one click ranp it up to 600-800 to deal with tracers who dash around me.
You can bind keys like melee attack or macros on the other 2 extra buttons since it has 4.

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The DA is a good mouse, for sure. It has a little more jitter than the Steelseries 310-mice, but you can only tell the difference when graphing it, it’s too small to notice. So they’re practically equal in that aspect.

I hate the look and feel of it though, it’s too clunky, the main buttons feel like they’re attached to the housing, and it just looks like it’s trying to overcompensate for something :stuck_out_tongue: And the software is horrible.

However, that’s mainly all a question of personal taste. Since the sensor is basically equivalent, the one that fits your grip best is better for you, performance-wise.

But the DA, even on sale, is twice the price of the Sensei 310.

Edit: i bind melee to one of the side buttons and voice to the other.

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I went for the ZOWIE GEAR EC1-A, no software since my razer naga was really not reliable enough and had too many buttons. Without a software it’s lacking some fine tuning but 4 presets are enough for me as you can fine tune in ow. And the Zowie is really cheap.
Always a question if personal preferences :slight_smile:
But I can really recommend a mouse boungee (I’m using the one from Zowie since it works with weight instead of glue)

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Best low budget mouse I have used is Gigabyte m6800, its £10, last a long time and seemed to perform pretty well for me, not too sure I notice a difference between it and my G402.

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As I see you like simple mice just like I do. I think what you are looking for is probably an ambidextrous optical mouse with 5 buttons (including button 3 which is the wheel).

  1. The most important thing is having a mouse with the right shape and size (based on your hand size and the style you are using to grab the mouse).
  2. Good soft mouse cable that is unnoticeable with a mouse bungee. Some mice (including expensive ones) come with very stiff bad cables.
  3. The button clicks should feel right. (actuation force, travel distance, shape, location)
  4. The mouse should have at least a semi-decent sensor for aiming but I don’t think this is a problem with any modern gaming mice from major vendors (including budget ones).

A few months ago I decided to buy a good gaming mouse to become an “aiming god” :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: Read quite a few articles about the topic and watched quite a few mouse reviews on youtube (I highly recommend watching at least one Rocket Jump Ninja review about a mouse on youtube before buying a mouse because it explains many previously mentioned things very well).

I also visited a few shops to personally try/grab a set of mice to check the shape and click feel (highly recommended).

In the end I decided to buy Zowie FK2 and Logitech g203 (with a handsize of 19x10cm with hybrid fingertip aiming and relaxed claw grip). I like both mice but prefer using the zowie FK2. (Note: The Zowie FK2 has larger versions too: FK1 and FK1+).

Differences between Zowie FK2 and Logitech g203:

  • The fk2 has a bit better shape in my opinion when it comes to the curves on the sides. The curves are perfect on both mice for liftoff (with thumb and pinkie) but the middle of the mouse is more fat in case of g203 which makes it less comfortable for me during precision aiming with finger tips - I find the fat part to be a bit in the way of the middle part of my thumb and pinkie, but nothing serious. The length of fk2 is larger but this isn’t really a difference or deciding factor in my case especially because the back (the ass) of the FK2 is very flat and isn’t in contact with my plam (just like in case of g203) so isn’t a distraction for me when fingertip aiming.
  • The surface of the fk2 is a bit shiny and minimally matte (but I like it) while the g203 surface is very rough. I personally like that rough surface a lot and can be better for people with very sweaty hands (mine is medium sweaty).
  • The fk2 has very hard to press buttons. 150g actuation force (huano switches) compared to most other gaming mice with 75g (chinese or japanese omron switch) actuation force. I personally don’t like the 150g fk2 switches and might replace the switches in the future to 75g omron ones (but this would require soldering…). The side buttons of the FK2 are very good and aren’t difficult to press like button 1, 2 and 3 and I find them a bit more comfortable better-shaped than g203 buttons. It is possible to get used to the 150g buttons in a few days but I’d still prefer 75g ones.
  • The FK2 has side buttons (button 4 and 5) on both sides which makes it suitable for left handed people (but buttons work only on one side at a time) while the g203 has buttons only for right handed people despite having ambidextrous shape.
  • The scrollwheel of the fk2 has less steps (16) than most other mice and relatively hard both to click and scroll, some people like this (because its easier to avoid accidental scrolling when clicking the wheel as button 3) but many people prefer the smoother wheels with multiple steps (probably those who use their mouse as general purpose device for desktop/browsing too).
  • The g203 has the DPI switch button on the top behind the wheel, the zowie has it at the bottom of the mouse. This isn’t a problem for me but heard that some people prefer it on the top to be able to switch between 2 different DPI settings in some games, I use constant 800DPI which feels great on my desktop with default windows settings and later I tweak it with in-game mouse sens settings.
  • The zowie comes without software while the g203 can be tweaked with logitech software and has more flexible customisation abilities (I don’t need this and prefer the driverless/softwareless nature of the fk2).
  • The g203 has RGB leds that can be customised from software. Some people don’t like the leds and say it heats up the mouse a bit unless they are turned off. Turning off can be done only from software as far as I know. Some unix users complained for the lack of software.
  • Both mice are lighter on average than most other gaming mice on the market but the g203 weighs less than the fk2 which might be good or bad for you when it comes to aiming (depends on personal preference). (EDIT: According to the specs both weigh 85g but the shape of the curves on the sides make the g203 feel much lighter when lifting off with the thumb and pinkie. They also have different feet - the fk2 having much larger surface - which makes the sliding feel a little bit different.) Aiming, flick-aiming, tracking depend heavily on mouse weigh and the friction between the mouse and mousepad (which depends on the surface material of the mousepad and mouse feet too). I personally use king-sized roccat taito pad which feels more slippery than typical textile surfaced pads. Buy a large or king sized mouse pad from a good brand. For good aiming its good to have a large mouse pad when you set up low mouse sensitivity (like the typical 15-20cm mouse movement per 180 degree in-game rotation for overwatch).
  • The cable is good in case of both mice. They are soft enough so you won’t even notice it if you have a mouse bungee. I use zowie camade bungee because unless most other bungees that have to be glued to the table this one relies on its heavy base without gluing. The cable is very important: it has to be soft and unnoticeable with a bungee. If you buy a wireless mouse than expect higher mouse weigh (because of the battery) and check reviews whether the wireless communication is continuous (not distracted by wifi or something else) and doesn’t introduce too much input latency.

Another mouse I would personally consider (if I wasn’t satisfied enough with my current mouse) is SteelSeries Sensei 310. It was on my purchase list after the simpler/smaller/lighter mice (g203 and FK2) because it is a little bit heavier and larger than the ones I have. People who have larger hands and/or different grip style might actually prefer it. People who like small light office mice are probably better off with a smaller lighter mouse (like the g203).

The Razer DeathAdder is another legendary mouse that I’ve tried in a shop (just grabbing/clicking, not playing with it). The button clicks are very good (among the best I’ve tried) but shapewise I didn’t like that the front is wide and found the overall mouse size a little bit too large (people with palm grip might prefer this). The weigh is also too much for me, about 100g while I prefer smaller mice in the 60-80g range. Another problem that people were complaining about regarding some razer mice is rubberised coating peeling off and glued rubber pads on the sides falling off. I don’t know how old the affected mice were and some razer mice might not have these issues.

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I pretty much knew none of that, I just looked at prices, reviews and picked logitech due to using a few other of their products.

I wouldn’t mind a mouse with a 150g button for right click, I often use Lucio boop by mistake or soldier rockets.

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Some people prefer the hard FK2 buttons to avoid accidental clicks and this is why it is often said to be an “FPS mouse”. However I don’t have this issue with light buttons (that most gaming and office mice have) and find it less tiring and easier to spam that can be an advantage in many games, even in OW.

In my opinion the g203 is a darn good budget mouse and because of its office-mouse like shape, size and weight many beginners coming from ambidextrous office-mice would find it very comfortable.

However it’s very important to buy a gaming mouse because unless some office mice that have pre-programmed acceleration for comfortable wrist-based cursor position on the desktop (often without liftoff), a gaming mouse has to have a linear sensor that handles quick movements in any direction along with liftoffs with a low liftoff distance and quick continuation when the mouse is placed back onto the surface. If these things are missing then your aim/gameplay will suffer.

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G903
Wireless like wired(If not better! I’m serious) and only needs to be charged for 1 hour/week(can be done while PC is off)

With qi mouse pad never needs to be charged.

Also best sensor and probably best mouse overall coz of all this.

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Unfortunately there is no “best” mouse. I realised this after watching a few mouse reviews and testing a few mice in a shop.

The shape and size of the mouse has to fit the hand size and grip style of the player. For example I think I have medium sized hands but I still prefer smaller mice because my aiming consists not only from arm movements but I’m also using some fingertip aiming for precision that I find to be much easier with smaller/lighter mice. Actually the shape of Zowie mice is praised by a lot of players (I understand why) and it comes in many sizes which is a good thing.

Most gaming mice are rather heavy (100+ grams and sometimes in an unbalanced way) and large (bad for fingertip aiming) so for me it was very easy to exclude most gaming mice from my list.

After my journey with mouse research I was thinking about prototyping some mice and starting a gaming mouse business because the “best” mouse for me would be a hybrid of some of the mice I’ve tried. :smiley:

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It’s a very generally good mouse for all grip styles.
I have unique hands too(haha). But 903 is a dream.
Could be better, but really, there’s no better :smiley:
Try it. Try any mouse before you buy one. You have 2 weeks to return it with no questions asked. Just try 903 too before decide on some crap like zowie(overhyped crap)