A plea for dealing with leavers. Losing interest in the game

True. That’s why I said to add me and check everything.

Maybe I will add him to save him the hassle.

(I did, not accepted yet…)

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If you “Mained Rein”, you’d have most hours played on current season, not third so please.

Why would I be playing Rein much this season?

In season 26 he’s been one of the weakest tanks. So I’ve been trying to get better on Zarya. Now that rush is more viable, Rein works a lot better so I played him more last night.

Part of getting good is knowing what’s best to play. If your enemy are playing Ball Zarya with snipers or ranged spam… What is the point in playing Rein.

But as I said, I am a Rein main. And I’ve added you do you can see. Unless you are just being a troll.

Oh and to correct you “Your least played tank this season is Rein.” pretty sure my 20ish minutes of Sigma and Orissa is less than my few hours of Rein.

You do not main Rein, simple as that. 2, nearly 3 hours on rein compared to 11+ hours on Zarya lool.

Whatever makes you happy :slight_smile: x

Because it doesn’t fit your narative.

I’m playing Zarya because she was getting more value than Rein. But now rush is strong. So I play Rein (66%wr), I play Zarya (64%wr), I play Lucio (84%wr).

You want to know how I climbed, one of the tricks… Read the patch notes and adjust.

Still not accepted my add. What are you scared off?

That you will find that I’ve told the truth?

Had good team mates, nice trick dude! :slight_smile:

Your team is RNG.

If your team is always bad, you are probably bad too. Similar MMR and all.

Good team mates would imply I pick them.

Still haven’t added me though. Maybe I will play Zarya with you. We are still within the range.

If you look at my old account. I was <500sr once too. But I guess good team mates in bronze…

Lmao have you heard yourself. Where do you get these “facts” from? You’re literally so clueless as you think this game is a one person game. It’s so funny xD

When have I ever said it is a solo game…

Just because I focus on getting better doesn’t mean anything about that…

One of the things I’ve improved at, and keep trying to improve is being a better team player, with or without comms.

And the better I am individually, makes playing the team game a lot easier.

But if your “bad” team mates have a similar MMR to you, they are deemed to be of a similar skill level. So clearly the game thinks you’re not that good of a team mate either. (25% Lucio wr is a clue to that).

(btw, my trick to winning on Lucio while being bad at him… Just hold your tanks hands, speed them about the map so they can take map control. I don’t even need comms for that) - proof, me bad at Lucio, solo que, zero comms - 1JPKB3

Plenty of times. “You lose, it’s your fault, get better, improve” is all you ever say on the forums rofl.

I just had a great game, where everyone communicated, and went for it, and won. you seem to think because you lose, it’s all YOUR fault, and no-one elses, so you need to ImPrOvE.

You literally have no idea. A great team that works well together is the key to winning games, but you seem to think one person should be able to carry the team xD xD

Yeah. If I lose, I look at what I could have done better.

I can’t fix the mistakes others made, so I am not going to worry about what they did after the event. I will work on improving what I did.

At no point is this me suggesting someone can solo, it is me saying after the event whats done is done, and you can only improve yourself.

You seem to completely misunderstand. But that is ok. This basic concept isn’t for everyone.

And yes. Games like that are great and all games should be. But sometimes they are not, and no one talks. But the fundamentals are the same.

The match is over, you can’t change the result. All you can do is look back and work on trying to cut out your mistakes.

Still being cowardly and not accepting my add though. Scared to play a few games?

You’re so special lmao

I don’t want to add you because I don’t like you, simple as that really.

I am special because I want to cut out the mistakes I make?

Why don’t you look at the mistakes you’ve made in a match and work out how you can cut them out?

Never said you had to like me, don’t really care, you wanted to go through my history. I gave you both accounts to do so.

Here is another way of explaining it, and why I started looking inwards.

In silver, the team that makes the least mistakes wins. So, learn to cut a few of your mistakes out, and suddenly your team is making less mistakes and the chances of your team winning go up. Does that make the theory clearer for you?

And this is precisely why the mmr-system should be ENTIRELY individual-based, and not be affected by the teams you have at all. Meaning that if YOU pop off like a god in a losing match, your mmr can still go up, even if it is a loss, as your individual skill were not matching that of your teammates. Saying the mmr is evenly matched with the players on your team when it can get dragged into the mud by others, doesn’t really make them “same level of skill” as yourself. It’s a flawed system, and shouldn’t be used as an argument really.

Well, you don’t really say it directly, but by constantly bringing up stuff about how one should improve themselves and reflect on mistakes after each match, and be convinced that this can somehow affect the next match, is a bit preposterous. Hindsight and learning from mistakes is something most people do on instinct, beating yourself up in your mind thinking: “boy, that was pretty dumb of me to do”. And learning like this is normal. However, it doesn’t change the fact that one bad apple can actually ruin for the 5 others. Say you have an Ana as healer on your team, and she has like 2k heals after 7 mins, and an accuracy of 21%, she’s not really much of a contribution. And if you play a dps for example, what can you “learn” from this situation that would make this go better in a similar situation in another game? If you as a dps in this game, really popped off, and did a really good job, what can you learn? There is probably SMALL things that you could have done slightly better, but definitely not something to weigh up for a bad apple spoiling the bunch. And given that you say that YOU should improve in this sense, it does sort of imply that you have to make up the difference of that player, which MEANS, you are not in a group with “equally skilled players”, or, you are not in the correct ladder-tier. Simple as that. Nothing to learn in that situation.

Your MMR is entirely individually based.

MMR is based on your performance, not match results.

So, you improve, your MMR improves. If your MMR improves you get matched with better players.

If it is, how come I get grouped up with players who can’t aim if their lives depended on it? or do things that one should obviously not do? clearly, they are not in the same range of skill as I am then. If my performance is consistently high, and theirs is not, how could this be seen as “similar mmr”?
Is it based on ALL TIME, in that case? does my “bad stats” from long ago lower my overall averages compared to today, affect it or what?

Because their MMR will be similar to yours.

One bad aim day doesn’t make a bad player.

It is not based on “all time” it is based on a rolling average of a certain amount of games. Hence why a former 4.4k player can go away for a year and still get 4.4k games, even though they might no longer have that level of skill.

Because the MMR system is flawed.

Re-write the code for them then. If you know the flaws I am sure they would appreciate the fix.

It is actually surprisingly accurate. Even if it isn’t 100% perfect.

Knowing and seeing flaws is completely different from solving them through programming. They have programmers, what we, as consumers can do, is give feedback on things we like and don’t like.

What are you basing this accuracy on? I’m telling you, the experience shows a completely different picture, and there is nothing that gives any indication to this being “surprisingly accurate” in that sense. 100% perfection is nearly impossible to achieve, so nobody would expect that of them anyways. But small improvements could nudge us ever so slightly closer towards it. And that’s what feedback is for.

A good thing to do would be to implement some sort of “testing”-system, where you can measure your own abilities to see how accurate etc you actually are. If you played wow, I’m referring to something to the likes of the “proving grounds” from the Mists of Pandaria expansion.