Addressing Mercy nerfs

Animetic; A GM Mercy main with a massive YouTube audience voiced her opinion of the Mercy nerfs on Twitter. Here’s what she said.

Who is smoking crack at Blizzard. How is it possible to they nerf the wrong things about Mercy 3 times in a row. Res is annoying. Unkillable moth is annoying. No one cares about 10 HP/s (making her even less impactful zzz). Guess what she'll probably still be meta because of res.

I personally agree with what she’s saying. Mercy’s most recent nerfs completely ignore the main problems with her; her Resurrect and her Valkyrie.

Curious to see the communities opinion on the nerfs.

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I personally think that mercy survivability makes her that annoying. Given the fact that she regenerates 20 health per second after 1 second of no damage, she can survive heavy fire, if the player can play her with high mobility.

What if her regeneration is decreased or the healing effect occurs after 2 or 3 seconds, instead of one?

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It’s funny how her GA and regen rate wasn’t a problem pre-valk. It suddenly becomes a problem after her rework. Go’s to show how unsuccessful the rework has been.

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If her regeneration isn’t the problem, then how about we get rid of this from her ult:

Regeneration is no longer interruptable by damage taken

She seems unkillable because she regenerates 20hp per second the whole time. What if this gets taken out and it will be interrupted for one second after taking damage. That would make her more vurnurable during her ult.

It’s extremely easy to kill a flying Mercy as a hitscan as she is in the air, open for hitscan to shoot her. Also, most heroes in the game do more than 20 DMG per second so…

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If that’s the truth, then why are people and even a Mercy GM complaining about…

It seems like the argument is true in theroy but practically not correct.

Because Blizzard is being hypocritical. They previously said Mercy is a main, solo target healer but Valkyrie completely contradicts this as it gives her AoE heals. Also, Animetic is complaining about how they ignored what needs to be changed about Mercy. ”pick Mercy for consistent and uninterruptible heals” said no player whatsoever.

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I think you are wrong. She is very easy to kill it just takes aim. So this isnt the issue. The issue is that she has the res. Her heals are fine so ideky theyre nerfing it. But regardless shes just high mobility and her health regen isnt that great.

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I believe that this nerf won’t really make Mercy much worse as she is right now.

However, I believe that indeed her healing was way too reliable, and too high for such reliability.
For example, Winston + DVA dive onto ennemy Zennyata. He lives because Mercy left-clicks him.
SOmetimes, she even feels like she does as much burst healing as Ana without the cons of it.
With all the tools she has (mobility, self-regen, damage boost, rez), her healing is just too good. I think this amount is pretty fair, it will be noticeable at the end of the game as it’s 10HP/s less and Mercy spends a big portion of the game just healing, but it won’t make her feel like she doesn’t heal anything anymore.

Overall, I believe that this nerf was fair and deserved.

I don’t believe that’s true. Mercy’s hitbox while in Valkyrie / Guardian Angel is just broken, and most heores do more than 20 DPS if they hit all their shots and without factoring damage falloff.

That being said, I don’t think the problem right now is in Valkyrie, but simply in the reliability of her heal, which outshines that of any other support in almost every case. There’s a reason she’s the one being picked for single-support comps over Moira / Ana, and it’s not solely rez.

I wasn’t saying that it’s not true. The op’s statement just contradicted the GM’s opinion which the OP supports.

The statement was:

Yet the supported opinion was:

That contradiction was the reason why I asked more questions regarding her ult.

Regarding the Resurrection ability. Personally, it really seems to be easy to execute (mercy is my main support). Removing the rez is the wrong approach because it’s her gimmick. All we could do is to make it more difficult to use.

There could be multiple ways to do it: increase cooldown, increase cast time, reduce range, make it interruptable by getting damage (like Sombra’s hack)

Those are some Ideas to balance the resurrection ability.

Nonetheless, I wonder how her nerf changes the game, especially with all the buffs for the other heroes.

Change at what level? Without addressing any specific healer, healing in general is way too good and strong right now, and that’s largely due to the fact that instant kill/burst characters are largely off the radar for their own healers, while their victims are taken off the list of people to care for too since there is just nothing you could possibly do to save them. Direct healers have way too much of the resource TIME available to them and either no need or no chance to manage it.

The changes to damage falloff might spice things up a little, but chances are that it’ll only be recognized as a little bit of extras splash damage that’ll bring out the inconsistency of heals from those already dealing with that problem even more.

I personally didn’t agree with Valkyrie making Mercy an unkillable moth but I agreed with everything else. Sorry for not making that clear.

They are choosing not to nerf the “right” things as it would too greatly change the role that Mercy fills. They want her to be the main healer and to have the rez. Not sure why they think it’s acceptable for one character to have both, but they do. She will absolutely still be meta because of Rez and high healing, and that’s exactly what Blizz intended. The nerf was to decrease the heal gap between Mercy and other healers, there is a lesser insentive to always pick Mercy over them, however the insentive will still exist to some degree.

Do I completely agree with Blizzard’s decision? No, I don’t. I think the heal nerf is inconsequential, honestly. But it’s a step forward in the direction in which they want to take it. I think Rez is fine and moth is bull****, but that’s because I can’t hit her, which I assume is an issue with me and not the ability. That said, I wouldn’t be complaining if something was done to make her more vulnerable when in Valk, like the regen changes as suggested, or a GA nerf in some capacity.

All in all, I’m less concerned about the Mercy nerf and more focused on the other support buffs.

Personally I feel Mercy would be fine with team-rez again, with the current slowed cast time, and (maybe) nerf the cooldown on her Guardian Angel slightly. But people would still complain, so alright fine, how about only up to the 3 nearest players instead of 5? Half a team-rez… If the opposing team still has all 6 players, they still have the numbers advantage by 2, and using Resurrect when there is 3 dead is already hard to pass as is, especially if the enemy team camps their bodies or has a sniper watching, so…?

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the only way they going to balance her

remove resurrect

nerf her to the point she be a 1 button hero

blizzard chose the second option it’s seems

The rework is great.

Res is fine, her reliable high healing gives her a reliable number of ultimates. She will now get her ultimate 17% less.

She can Res all she wants, it brings back 1, a sleep dart in a nano boosted enemy Genji can save your whole team.

Hahahaha no. There’s allways that one guy who decides to shoot the sleeping Genji instantly if you actually manage to hit him in the first place.

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Res is definitely the problem, but they don’t have to remove it. Make it so that the Res needs to happen within 3 seconds or the player is permanently dead.

EDIT: until he respawns ofc

They should buff the crap supports instead of continually nerfing a great one, it is as simple as that.

I stand behind mercy’s nerf people just couldn’t play any healers thanks to mercy rez ability on top of her skill cap.
Im happy she got nerf’d now when i jump in with Winston i have a chance to kill something and mercy does’t perfectly out heal all my dmg that im risking my life to execute.

Stuff like this have been said about every heroes nerf and it the end of the day the game still feels better. Btw this is a violation of the code of conduct so that mercy main youtuber cant post this here and nor can you since it’s slandering.

If mercy is still meta/problematic after this nerf she will get nerf’d again until people have the chance to pick any other support. But i don’t think this will happen since we are entering dive meta and not snipers/oneshot meta where rez was good, when the new hero is out and patch changes take place we will enter 3 tank dive meta.