No. Healing + DR is too much. That means it could counter most of the abilities in the game - even more so than it already does. 1 defensive ult shouldn’t be able to counter every type of damagin ability. I think Lucio’s ult should get some further tweaks so that Lucio’s ult better counters burst and Zen’s ult is the resident sustain dmg nullifier.
You mean… Genji’s, Zarya’s, Hanzo’s, Soldier’s (Kind of, usually 1-2 people die). These are all the ultimates that Zen counters strongly. That’s not a lot. And it compensates for his terrible healing output. I don’t think damage reduction within the transendence radius would be a bad idea. Zen already is the first target when attacking, so he can only counter ultimates if he’s alive. Which, most of the time he’s already dead. Learn to play around his ult or force it out, then it really isn’t as OP as you think.
I don’t think this is going to happen. Not to bring up Mercy again in another thread but what you are describing is basically the Mercy 1.0 ultimate without the ressurect aspect. With the orb healing he could just hide in a corner and pop out to use his ultimate when the other team pushes. Then it’s a matter of time before people start spamming the forum with ''I didn’t get to press Q to win, remove hero!".
Trans completely counters Tac Visor. What it doesn’t counter is bad positioning. Trans can even completely nullify Nano-Visor.
But to improve upon your list:
Trans counters the ults of Rein, Zarya, Genji, Hanzo, Mei, Reaper, Soldier, Torb and most nano-combos (Nano-Blade can cut through it but only if you animation cancel a slash with a swift strike on a 250hp or lower hero).
That leaves Dva, Orisa, McCree, Rat, Hog, Winston, Pharah, Bastion, Doom and Tracer who’se ults aren’t countered by Zen.
So 8 1/2 to 10. That’s not bad at all for one support ultimate. His ultimate does not need to be any better than it already is.
Do not pretend that this was the issue. The issue was they spent 2 minutes farming an ult that Mercy got in 40 seconds, combod their ults, overcame the obstacles and counters and Mercy presses 1 button (2 if she GAs in) and undoes it all. That was balanced by nobodies definition.
I said strongly counter. Yes, Zen counters Rein’s ult. But ONLY if Zen dosen’t get smashed. Lucio’s and Moira’s ult can also counter Rein’s as well. Zen’s ult does counter Tac Visor. However, there will always be 1-2 people that are too far away from the trans radius.
Again, Zen does counter Mei’s ult. But it becomes a lot easier for Mei to instant kill many heroes, and if that wasnt enough I’m sure a doom could finish them off. A lot of ultimates counter torb’s, including Zen’s. But guess what. It only counters it if your team are all in one clump. 9 times out of 10 they’re not. And it dosen’t counter Reaper’s ult as he outputs too much damage, and if that isn’t enough all it takes is another hero to also come do damage and trans is ineffective.
Re-read what I said. I didn’t say that this was the actual issue in my post. What I said was that this is how the community will react when Zenyata only has to press a single button to undo every ultimate in the game just like Mercy used to. And I am also talking about pre GA with her ressurect ultimate. The non-Zenyata players simply would not allow him to have this much power and would protest all over the forums untill it gets nerfed.
Which requires aim. Unlike cough Moira cough Brigitte. I wouldn’t complain about Zen, or Ana or Lucio tbh if Moira and Brigitte weren’t in the game. But because they are, when you compare Zen to Brig and Moira. It just dosent weigh out. Zen is not mobile, requires a lot of skill (good aim and positioning), has huge consequences. Moira and Brigitte, not much positioning required and easy to get out of a bad position, small amount of skill required as there is no need to aim, and are both low risk high reward. When you compare Zen, Ana and Lucio to heroes like Brigitte and Moira. You’re gonna think they’re sh*t. Yes, they have their unique advantages. But really, they just aren’t quite on the same level.
He’s talking about too many 1 shotters.
if they had to remove that capability -even if it’s situational- from any heroes, Zen should be the first one.
Support 1 shotter makes sense? much aim skill with no spread? ok
True but it is very easy to predict and avoid a shatter.
Uh. No. Not really. At most it’s a soft counter.
Not always, there could be. And as I said, Zen’s ult doesn’t counter bad positioning.
It is literally impossible for Mei to insta kill anyone except baby dva or Tracer through a Trans. She needs to get a multiple headshots in a row which takes time. And Zen can body block.
Yeah, I’d wager he could. If he punches them into a wall that is immediately next to them or uses the slam-shoot-uppercut combo, then he probably could. But should Zen be able to cancel every sinlge ult/ability combo?
Uh. No. Literally only the person who has turret aggro needs to be in range. No one else is at risk.
300hp/s vs 170dmg/s. Trans almost counters it twice.
They could use a melee to kill a 200hp hero, but anyone else is pretty much safe unless other teammates do a substantial amount of damage. But again, Trans shouldn’t be able to counter everything.
Yes, but that’s not at all what they were saying. I corrected what the community said. However, I did assume that you made that mistake in the first place based on your own skewed perception of Mass rez’s balance, and if that’s not the case, then my bad.
Also, wdym pre GA? GA has always been a thing? I am also talking about Ult Rez, but GA existed back then too and Mercy often GAed into her dead team from her hiding spot to rez them.
