So it’s impossible to tell if a usually reliable player is having a really bad day? Which you have made it sound like it should be able to.
Only going off previous data/reports. I doubt it can use the present data of a current match.
I only ever stated data/reports. Read up.
Another user typed using the future to predict, which you may be getting caught up on maybe.
The data and report of past events can’t predict the future. So what’s would be the point…
And no Dota 2 isn’t doing anything like that. It’s punishing people for past indiscretions. As ow does by suspending people when the reports hit.
You said “A dps going AFK, or trying to access various areas of the map. This is Blizzards amazing Matchmaker.”
Both of those are issues that cannot reliably be predicted to happen.
Perhaps the afk got a sudden super important phonecall?
And paybe that other person had never played on that particular map before and was exploring?
Neither can be predicted as i said.
It uses data + reports.
To not ruin the game for everyone else.
Players who receive multiple reports, or consistent leavers are placed into a low priority queue until they can prove that they will not for instance, leave, or receive many reports, plus other factors.
Why? To improve the gameplay for everyone else.
It can use data gathered + reports.
Dota2 does it. CS:GO does it based on previous data and reports.
But if those are the first times those happen? Then they cannot be predicted.
That’s exactly as I said, punishing them for past indiscretions. Not predicting what they might do.
Hieiko has explained it well. You’re blaming something that isn’t responsible.
And, let’s say OW did punish like Dota… You were in a thrower game for a reason too…
As i stated above when I first mentioned this potential idea - “Its likely this isn’t the users first time on doing this.” (I typed something like this).
I didn’t say anything about predicting/future, you said that.
I said data + reports.
My opinion that MM can be improved.
Nope. I was with the team, healing. It was 4v5.
Brig heals via damage + E.
Try and keep up lad
You cannot know if it’s the first time or not. So it might as well have been. In which case it is not a very good idea to blame something that could not have predicted that they would divert from what they normally do.
You’d be using data and reports to make assumptions about what a player might do… Ie predictions.
Saying the matchmaker can be improved is literally a nothing statement. It isn’t perfect, every matchmaker can be improve.
You weren’t with the team, you were trying to 1v1 Mei half the time. Everyone was out of your healing AoE
Data + Reports could have previous history of that.
Might have been, hence why I typed
Likely means potentially… not that he HAS done it before.
But “if” this was the first time, we cannot blame the mm for not knowing
There you go then, this MM can be improved.
Maybe using the data and reports gathered
Glad we agree.
Team were with me. Get over yourself lad.
My opinion that it can be improved if this wasn’t the first occurance.
What do you not understand?
Be improved. Yes.
What you’re suggesting is requiring it to use past data and reports to predict future behaviour.
Simply having a “punishment” queue, isn’t going to make a lick of difference.
It will group those people together. It works in other games, until they can prove they’re reliable again.
But that’s your opinion vs mine
I’m not saying that it cannot be improved.
But i’m sure you agree that it cannot perform miracles if it doesn’t have the data. Which in the first place makes roku right on the “can’t predict misuse of cooldowns, tilted players, throwers”
Which you claimed it could (while not citing the need for data to perform this miracle)
Which would mean that a more thorough explanation of your thought process in the first place could have saved you two tjis entire argument.
That doesn’t actually do anything though. It’s a placebo gesture. Just like when Dota said they’d ban smurfs.
Using your thrower as the example. He’ll get banned on reports. Why do you need a special queue if you’re just going to ban them.
They’d need to be investigated before being put in the queue. So you might as well suspend them at that point.
So no, it doesn’t make a difference and would be a waste of time and resources.