Competitive system broken?

I stated it could use data/reports, assuming its not the players first time.

But what’s someone’s past performance got to do with their next game.

It’s illogical at best.

Unsure if Dota review the reports and data.
They might just have AI/rules setup.

Your opinion. For me it certainly improves the games of Dota when you’re not getting a leaver/AFKer.

That is why is called a placebo.

They’ve made you think it’s improved, whilst actually doing little to nothing.

Not think, I know it improves my games. It removes leavers/afkers from the queue for instance

Is what you said. Nowhere did you specify the need for reports. (Which in themselves would have already punished the player if this happens often enough to get data of)

Keep looking I did say it

It doesn’t.

It punishes peoples for their past behaviour, just like ow does by banning them.

Literally does nothing to prevent people from leaving or going afk.

It is 100% a placebo to appease people like yourself, who now go into games with a better mindset. Even though the chances of a disruptive player haven’t changed.

Have you proof that I do not know, as your claiming I only “Think”?

Go into a few games of Dota, you’ll see.

I’m not claiming you think. You’re just telling us you think it’s better.

And no, Dota sucks, I don’t want to play that game ever again.

It’s literally the same as OW. They ban someone for throwing. Isn’t that nice, now you feel all warm and fuzzy because they are doing something… But what about the person about to throw in your next game. They’ve got no idea that’s about to happen. So in reality it’s made no difference, other than to make you think something’s happening.

Do you mean this part? In the topic of conversation it implies that the mm should pick up on this on it’s own, not through reports.
Because if there were enough reports for the mm to have confirmed the behavior consistent enough to act upon, the player would already be banned at that point with the system in place right now.

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I do state data+reports. Quite a few hours ago now.
Maybe a CTRL+F on this thread to locate it.

True, but after that game data+reports will be gathered, and other future games, until theres enough envidence to support an action being made.
Like I said, it could use data+reports.

Ok, so at that point they get suspended.

The punishment queue was never needed. Because these things needed checking. You can’t just make a punishment queue because you thought someone was throwing, when in fact they were just having a bad game.

So the system overwatch has in place is fine. Yes they could act quicker, but the basis of it is fine.

Your opinion.

I think it can be improved better as discussed above.

I did say this

And if the mm had enough data to act on the player would most likely be banned for the behaviour at that point.

Which makes it likely that the mm doesn’t have enough data to act on yet.
Which in turn means that it’s not the mm’s fault that the players were in your match in the first place if the behaviour hasn’t been consistent enough to act on yet.

Maybe it hasn’t got enough data, but maybe it does.

My opinion as discussed above.

This is possibly the first time I’ve spoken to someone who’s genuinely thought placebo measures like dotas actually improve or change things.

Assuming you’re actually being genuine, it’s quite fascinating. Knew there would be someone, but never met them.

:+1:

I never thought I’d meet someone who is as forgetful as yourself, and lies so much.
But there we go.

Good comeback from the one fooled by a placebo.