Get rid of F2P model

Hey! Just a thought…MAYBE ts almost like Blizzard and the Overwatch 2 team have had extensive meetings on this subject, Heavily comparing the pros and cons of making their game the way it is. Then also have further meetings where they review the descicion they made.

Ngl, I have full faith that the devs and people incharge of Overwatch 2 know what they are doing and how to market their game. They CERTAINLY know better than a few people on a forum who have the most pessimistic mindsets on the planet.

How about we make a serious non biased pros and cons list of what woulf happen if Overwatch became a game you paid for:

Pros:

  1. People who play the game frequently will pay for it. Making money
  2. Decreased amount of cheaters because you would have to pay to make a new account
  3. Incentivise good behaviour when playing as punishments would be more severe as they have paid to play the game.

Cons:

  1. A very large number of the player base will not continue to play Overwatch 2 as they could have a similar experiance for free in other games (Apex legends, Fortnite etc)
  2. Decreased player number will lead to even more matchmaking issues as there will be a less diverse player base to choose from
  3. People will start complaining about skin prices (if they dont lower them) as skins would then be a secondary source of income.
  4. This will then tie into Blizzards trend of being greedy. You will have the same problem as the Sims 4 did.
  5. Blizzards reputation will plummet and will have to rely on getting its money from exposure from streamers like Flats, Jay3 and the like. Multiple of wich have thought abouy quitting Overwatch 2 anyway.

Im just saying F2P is not the way to go if you want Overwatch 2 to still be alive this time next year…

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They could of.

But then they’d still have the issues of queue times. Long DPS queues being caused by a lack of tank players. Which, there is no doubt, 5v5 has helped with.

When your biggest market is Asia, who typically play in places like PC Bangs, queue times are a major concern.

100% this.

They would have gone in to this knowing full well that a good number of people are going to just straight up hate their decision.

They would have hoped that the decisions would lead to more incoming players than those upset and leaving. You can’t please everyone, the goal is to please the biggest audience possible.

It seems (from the information out there), that that has been the case. I’ve seen more content creators that said they’d never touch OW again during OW1 return in OW2. You’ve even got TimTheTatman playing again.

Make the role fun. That’s how to draw more people into the role.
Open the game up for free, that’s how you get more people into the game.
Release new content, that’s how you keep community interest.

No evidence that 5v5 has helped with it. I can clearly see though that the matchmaker is delivering one-sided matches though.

On paper. Yes.

They did that, it worked.

They’re doing that.

It’s helped with queue times (and probably a bunch of other efficiency stuff)

Not that I’ve seen, but I don’t necessarily go out of my way to watch “content creators”.

They weren’t wrong, still one of the most negative reviewed games on Steam. Very bad metacritic ratings vs OW.

They didn’t. OW was closed down. It wasn’t made free.

They didn’t for 2 years before shutting it down.

Yet one of the most played. Which is the more important vote.

Cool

And yet the decisions they made lead to major upticks in players and money. Seems like shutting it down and replacing it was the right move.

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If you are such a genius idea wizard, how do you suppose they do that. While making it equally fun for the other roles?? Hmm?? Love to hear your ground breaking ideas!

Thing is, they’ve tried a endless list of things. But low tank players has been an issue since long before even role queue appeared

At some point, you have to just accept that people just aren’t as interested in playing tanks. They want to shoot things and have impact, and cool clippable moments.

5v5 is far from perfect. And there is definitely a happy middle ground somewhere. They’re going to test a less open open queue next season. Maybe that’ll be the solution. We shall see.

October 2020 patch. From what I see online Arron Keller reported equal wait times across the queues.

No need for my groundbreaking ideas - Blizzard achieved it :slight_smile: until they broken it again.

Whilst it was a good patch game play wise, every quarter after untill around October 2022, they saw fewer and fewer players, with revenues significantly dropping over that period.

So it didn’t really achieve what they’d want it to do.

Weirdly, a change quite openly disliked on the forums, the season 9 hitbox changes. That saw a large up tick in players.

So, maybe we’re not the audience anymore.

Cause they stopped delivering content.

That doesnt mean in anyway that the role was more fun. That could equally br because the other roles became more miserable aswell. And from my memory or the game all the roles were rather miserable in the october 2020 patch.

Oh and also. That patch was 4 YEARS AGO. You really expect them not to change their game for four years. I think you need to put abit more depth and thought into what your saying. As it seems very 2 dimensional. Just a little tip to make debating more fun for everyone.

All queues had good wait times. No reports of reduced playerbase.

I expect them to release new stuff, but not break what works.
Likewise, please try being abit more in depth as it seems very 1 dimensional.

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Yk what. Ive realised something Sir Bubbbleshoot. I have better things to be doing with my life than arguing with someone who obviously lacks one. Why have I, for the past day, been entertaining your childish ideals and ignorant nature, I dont know? You can’t argue with someone who is devoid of the basic fundamentals of common sense. ‘Put comp behind a paywall’ like what were you on when you came up with that. Like seriously dude. Thats the best you could come up with? Thats just sad.
Anyway! Ive had enough of the children that swarm these forums pretending - yet failing - to sound smart to get a smidge of gratification in their lives. Not u roku, ur fine!

Goodbye and for future reference nobody actually cares about your problems with Overwatch 2 so I highly suggest you stop flooding the forums with your awful ideas. Because they are just that…awful.

See ya

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Works for CS2. It’s another wall to cheaters and smurf accounts.

It’s cute that you think I lack common sense :slight_smile:.

No one actually cares about your problems either. Improve your play then you won’t get reported or avoided :wink: There you go, another problem solved :smiley:

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Ik I said see ya but I was itnrogued if you replied. Boy was I appaulled (not that you care) I literally said before in a comment that YOU REPLIED TO. That I have a disability. Im Deaf. Im sorry! Ill just fix my ears shall so I dont get reported. This shows so much more about the type of person you are. Congratulations!!!

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I mean it’s obvious to smart people. A game like Overwatch, a FPS shooter with different abilities on every hero. A game like that is not made for PvE. Mind bogging how developers even came up with it.

I have bigger things to worry about, you’re right. It’s not my problem that you’re offended or appalled for recommending a premium competitive no different to what other games are doing.

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