They usually spam QP as tank and then DPS in comp after.
Smurf accounts are alt accounts. The only distinction is that they’re playing at a skill level they shouldn’t be at, which makes the matches ridiculously unbalanced. It’s toxic and makes the matchmaker look worse than it already does.
It’s especially unfair to Tank/Support players, who can’t play anything as versatile, with a short TTK as a smurf DPS. Playing DPS is the only real way to counter a smurf.
Indeed. But you can’t really be smurfing until you start taking action to be where you shouldn’t.
Merely leveling and getting placed where you end up isn’t smurfing. Most people will place a bit lower on new accounts as the system seems to be more conservative to start with, the uses SR adjustments in your first few games to jump you to where you should be.
Smurfs and alt are, and have always been, 2 different beasts.
I like people who get rolled and then claim smurf. They are interesting. Almost always wrong, but it interesting to watch the game back with them and let them point out what they think we’re the signs.
The fact that there’s no way to tell the game that you’ve played before, without stats, is the problem. A GM player playing into Gold players is toxic, unfun and shouldn’t happen.
That’s why it’s bad. If a Bronze player was in GM it would also be bad.
The skill difference is too much, and it makes the game feel awful.
It’s particularly unfair to roles that have less carry potential.
If there was a way to link accounts or give any indication that it’s an alt account, then smurfing wouldn’t be a problem, because it would be clear who’s abusing the system, as they wouldn’t indicate that they’re an alt.
They’re the same thing. Smurf accounts 100% come under alt accounts. Alt account just means alternate account. What you do with it after that determines whether you’re a smurf or not. E.g. being a GM player and queueing Comp.
I like people who pretend smurfing isn’t as big of an issue on forums, they’re almost always wrong, and usually paid forum heroes, but it’s interesting to play the game and see so many low levels with lots of game knowledge and not just mechanical skill.
There’s also STILL no good argument as to why smurfing should be allowed. None.
If you level account, do placements and just play normally and climb. Doesn’t matter if it is your first account or your 73rd account. You are doing what you should be doing.
Now, If you level, place and start trolling, throwing and so on to make sure you don’t climb. Then that is an issue and should be punished accordingly. That is SR manipulation and the basis of smurfing.
It doesn’t matter if you’ve played the game before, if you sre just playing to win (like every other normal player) you’ll get to your place pretty sharpish.
Smurfing isn’t that big of an issue. There is no pretend. Why do you think when you report someone nothing happens…
A. Because they system doesn’t work
B. Because your report was wrong
B is the inconvenient truth for some
Look at Dota when it announced they were going to ban smurfs. Wonder why they’ve not said much since?? Because it only banned 40,000 accounts. Which was barely 0.05% of the player base. It was just a PR move to appease player that started playing Because of the new TV show.
Only within the current system. And that’s what I’m arguing is bad.
It is though. There was a point when every other match I played had someone on a low level account, either on my team or on the enemy team, stomping everyone as DPS. It was no coincidence that the low level people, usually below level 100, were better than all of the people in that game, and so frequently.
I’ll say it again:
There is no good argument as to why smurfing should be allowed. There’s only arguments as to why it’s bad and should change.
Just there isn’t that many of them. Certainly no where near the numbers the forums would lead you to believe.
Without seeing any of your games, I’d suggest the enemy dps are more likely to “stomp” you because of coordination issues within your team.
Ill never argue for smurfing. It should be irradiated ASAP. It just isn’t that much of an issue, and is usually used to deflect from actual issues in someones game play that they are either unable or unwilling to work on.
I am on track. When people use strawman arguements, I immediately call them out on it. Especially when it’s a weirdly common thing for people on the Overwatch forums EU and US to try to disregard almost any negative opinion given on the game by saying “just git good”.
Except I never said anything about getting good. And addressed your argument.
So not a strawman… like most smurf reports, this is a false claim.
Instead your “paid” retort is almost a perfect definition of a strawman argument.
“The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent’s proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition”
No, you tried to imply that smurfs aren’t an issue, because people are trying to “deflect” from playing badly. Which leads to the argument that if they got better it wouldn’t be a problem. A strawman.
It’s pretty funny to say it to people with over 1k posts, who try to push back on things that are clearly issues in the game, and all tend to use the same “git gud” strawman in response to the majority of criticisms, though.
The similarity between how you debate and how like 3 other people who do the same thing is striking.
And all of you using the same strawman argument is just funny.
im not a smurf its you who is just a dumbass if you think people will report someone for no reason just cause you have no skill and understanding of the game