Leavers - The punishment for the remaining Players is too high

I had multiple matches where players from my team left and I got the regular rank reduction. It’s being treated as if it’s my/the remaining teams fault that someone left and gave us a MASSIVE disadvantage.

I find it very annoying is that people don’t seem to care about the penalties the second a Mauga appears on the enemy team (But that’s a balancing issue). And I also don’t think increasing penalties for leaving will fix anything.

It just really frustrates me, because what are you going to do?
You finish the game and loose a bunch of rank progress. You leave because it’s unwinnable and still get the minus. You’re basically being punished for someone else’s actions.

I would find it nice if the other players who were abandoned by their mate, would at least get a reduced minus of maybe 10% max and a demotion protection.

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The punish of a loss is too high?

To easy to abuse.

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Can you elaborate how that abuse would play out?

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Stack… Losing game… Someone in the stack who isn’t bothered by their rank leaves game.

reduced losses for stack.

Easy.

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Then just remove the reduction if the leave comes from inside your group. If a random leaves, the rest still receives a reduction.

This would also fix a theoretical “infinite demotion protection” abuse, which I would consider a bigger issue.

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Or… and hear me out… just leave it as it is.

Just remember some leavers won’t stop you climbing to where you should be. You will always get there if you just keep focus and work on yourself.

And also… The Overwatch team can’t do complex things. The reason people complain about the matchmaker for example is because they think it is far more complex than it is.

So a system like this, with this many variables would be far beyond their capabilities sadly.

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Yeah. Don’t think they’ll fix any of this. I got frustrated after dealing with leavers thrice in a single day. Thanks for the short discussion tho. I liked thinking of a possible solution.

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There is a solution.

The game should just simply close the match lobby whenever someone leaves a competitive match, regardless of how far into the match the teams are, just like the game does when someone leave at the very start or when the anti-chea—errr i mean an admin manually live ban someone like they do during certain streams, which means no penalties for anyone.

It also can’t be abused, since ranks won’t be affected by it.

As i mentioned, there’s an extremely simple solution, but since they’re hellbent on ruining their own game and reputation, it won’t happen, which is extremely unfortunate for everyone who keep getting leavers in their competitive matches, who leave when there’s less than 1.5min left on the clock…

Ranks won’t be affected?

You’re looking like you’re going to lose … Friend in stack leaves and cancels the match… SR saved.

I think people need to stop seeing losses as a “penalty”. If someone leaves and you lose, you aren’t being penalised. You just lost a match with a man down.

It isn’t the end of the world.

At this point i don’t think you even read more than a few words at a time when quoting someone, thus missing any kind of context.

Having to quote myself because people are too lazy to read is getting tedious.

What happens when someone leaves during the start of a match? The lobby closes and nothing happens to your rank.

What happens when someone is live banned? The lobby closes and nothing happens to your rank.

That means nobody can abuse it, period. Why? Because there’s nothing to gain for anyone and the only one who gets punished, is the player who left.

Because losses caused by a leaver IS a penalty that affects the entire team, because their ranks are affected by a loss. That’s the point you’re willfully ignoring.

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It isn’t. It’s a loss. I get it’s an annoying handicap when it happens.

A loss isn’t a penalty. It’s a match result. Your rank isn’t determined by 1 match. Or even 20 matches.

It is a penalty as long as you can’t leave without your rank getting penalized for it. I don’t really think you understand much of what is being said in this thread, honestly. At this point you’re just trolling for the sake of a higher post count.

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Ah yes. I wonder what rewards I get for posting more… :rofl:

Either way. Your failure to understand that losing isn’t a penalty isn’t my issue.

If you’d argue that you’re being penalised by having to play with a man down… That would of been ok. But losing the match isn’t a penalty.

Your issue is that you completely failed to read the entire post you’re quoting, so there is really nothing more to be said here. You couldn’t be any more wrong buddy. Let it go, move along.

This is just the proof everyone need to look at in this debate to tell you how wrong you are, and that you haven’t got the faintest idea of what you’re even talking about…

When someone leave after the grace period in comp, you can’t pull it back and win unless you got some seriously cracked players on your team, which happens once in 1,000,000+ games.

When you have a full team, you actually have a chance of winning.

When someone on your team leaves, the chances of your team winning is zero.

You can’t even leave the game yourself before the countdown expires, and even then, you’ll take a loss. Your rank is literally being held hostage by the system and that’s the penalty everyone have to deal with when someone leave their game, no matter how far into the match they are.

What i suggested means there wouldn’t be any penalty for the teammembers who gets left behind and nobody gets an L on their progress bar, where the only one who gets punished is the person leaving the game, and that literally cannot be abused by anyone, if the match lobby closes the second someone leaves, no matter how far into the game they are.

It’s not bloody rocket science buddy. It really ain’t.

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Stop worrying about losing in a video game. It’s not going to change anything.

The only way i could see this abused is to farm wins.
If no one loses, no one loses sr.

That could be abused by a losing team in a way where a single person takes the fall by leaving, thus preventing the rest of their team from losing rank.

If one has a dozen accounts (which are free) and they aren’t fussed about their rank, they can use each of those accounts 10 times per season to prevent rank losses for their team.

Sounds like too much effort for me, but this could technically be used as a tool to help boost accounts faster.

Read my posts above.

Nobody’s rank progress is affected. They don’t win, they don’t lose, the game lobby just closes. There’s literally nothing that can be abused there. :wink:

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Other than avoiding defeats…

Easy to abuse.

Maybe read my post too :upside_down_face:

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I did yeah, but there’s just no logic behind it, since the leaver would get a penalty which increases in severity until they get permanently banned from competitive for the rest of the competitive season, which is a whole year, not to mention they would lose SR as well in the process.