I cant exaggerate enough how getting 2 elims (doing 1 dps as someone is about to die) happens way too often. Or healers that are npcs levels. People also stopped voice comming by a huge margin.
I mean you lose the streamers and their fan base, you might as well lose 15-20% of players just from that.
Its not even about the better game, blizzard just isnt doing anything atm, no balance changes, no quality of life update, no noting. Just more of the same thing that fatigues players out.
Marvel rivals dropped 4 new characters at once, maybe blizzard shoul do something like that idk. And at that uniq chars not like hazard that besically is generic CC ult + doomfist block + distance cutter + wall run + mei wall.
Its painful how blizzard are killing this game and no, them making profit from skins in exchage from the few wales left isnt satisfactory to the players.
Like they should at this point atlest have a patch out for 6 v 6, at the very least that should be a thing, they are no longer on vacation and have a whole month of stats collected.
Blizzard also nerf MR by allowing a bigger range of people to join, they still allow premades vs solo que as well, these are changes they can revert at any point and the game will feel much better.
Whilst it’s certainly a headline grabbing thing to do it would be awful for OW to do.
MR is thriving on the idea that balance isn’t a thing. Chaos and all that.
OW also has a lot more work to do to create heroes, they are all bespoke ideas built on a in house engine. MR have 85+ years of characters, design, lore and idea to pluck from and an army of cheap labour to create them in UE5. they are also playing more to the LoL/mobile style of games where you flood the game with heroes as a constant way to keep people’s attention. Then hero bans becomes more of a cosmetic idea. A placebo if you will.
Whilst you are right. OW is a lot slower to do things. MR does feel like style of substance atm. If that’s the plan, they are nailing it. But when you have no substance, in the f2p you need to constantly drop flashy things to get the attention of the f2p sheep who need new things and stuff to buy to justify playing a game.
The whole midseason patch seems to have annoyed some. But they did say current 6v6 thing is being extended till then. I assumed the patch would be on 21st. But i guess others didn’t and are wondering where it is. Definitely should have communicated that better.
This week, I went to a game dev studio to play test a game. A game that should have been released in November (as it is every year), but got delayed to March. This isn’t a game on the scale of OW, but it’s realising a new title annually. An interesting insight in to how much pressure is on to get content out consistently. For me OW should ignore what MR does on that side. Do their own thing. Be their own game. They aren’t in competition, but they can influence and motivate each other.
Yeah and blizzard idea of balancing is having 1/4 of the games chars be CC and Crit immune, while all having cooldowns that make them unkillable and on top of that they CC you oh yeah and they also have to use one skill + basic attack to one shot you on top of having distance cutters with 4-6 sec cooldowns. And somehow its a good thing that they are keept like that for 6 v 6 where you get 2 of them like that.
Sometimes, one persons idea isn’t to your taste. No harm in that.
Now you have another game where you can bottom bash and melee to your hearts content. And when ow does something you like you can play that too.
From what I’ve seen, healing in MR looks obnoxious still. Which is just as problematic. And has far more cc. But that’s only from watching the odd stream here and there. Uninstalled after a couple of days as they hadn’t fixed the issues I had when playing the alpha (just a me preference thing, not a commentary on the quality of the game)
Would be, a big move. And possibly one of the stupidest things they could do.
This is a problem. But one they’ve been trying I solve for 8 years.
No one wants to play tanks, because who wants to be a punch bag for others… So you make them do more damage, be more aggressive… Now no one wants to play against them as they are oppressive.
There isn’t really a middle ground. They are either unfun to play, or unfun to play against. It’s why queues were so long in RQ. Because people just didn’t play tank enough. Same reason why flex queue is just a tank queue button.
I doubt 6v6 would solve this. The whole reason, like it or not, they went to 5v5 was to find a way to solve the tank problem, as there wasn’t a solution in 6v6.
That’s called open queue… Oh wait. No that’s no DPS
Tanks are needed. Or at least 1 is. The solution isn’t to throw your toys out of the pram and delete everything. That’s why it would be stupid. The PR damage that would do. Remember, the internet isn’t bright, just have to look at twitter to see how people just lie loudly about things and people just lap it up (Elon and his commentary about the UK as an example).
If ow just binned everything and started again, the discourse would just be about failure and giving up and that would lead to far more negativity. Just look at how people latched on to the steam reviews, because they don’t have the intelligence to realise what went on. Also, 2016 OW sucked far more. It was game of the year is a really weak year.
As for wacky tank suggestions… Remove all shields, some tanks would need a couple of tweaks. But it would be fun to try see what chaos that would cause.
Not really, tanks arent needed, they legit exist to stop the fun of the game, You can push payloads and contest objectives on multiple hero shooters without tanks, just OW is stubborn and wants to prove that they know better.
like they are just 2k people watching OW on twitch atm, thats less players than dead single player games atm… legit MiSide is preforming better, and its a game with only 4h of content… Blizzard just dont know how to balance the game and it shows, they know people dont play something so they make it op and still people dont play it…
They are prob trying to hero of the storm this game so they can sell it off or something idk…
Twitch. The other day ow was far higher than MR. It’s not really a metric that means anything.
You want that artificial twitch PR boost. just do drop and sponsor a few big streamers, and you can push any game to the top.
I hope you don’t run a business… Lol
Trimming some costs is useful if you’re selling something. Killing it, completely devalues the IP this rendering a sale pointless. No one’s going to buy a dead IP. Sony wouldn’t get a penny if they tried to sell concord for example.
Ow is going no where anytime soon. The playerbase is still very healthy. Yes, it has issues, but MR also has a long list of issues and no one’s suggesting that’ll die any time soon.
Embrace the fact that you have 2 games with 2 passionate Dev teams and communities. Stop trying to pitch them and their players against each other and have fun playing games.
Bro, the game is doing worse view wise than dead ass games from 2005 atm, game that dont have promos or big steamers on them.
OW for the last 4 years just tried to pander to the wierdest people imagenable and in the end they dont even play game, if OW was healthy they wouldnt need to nerf mr rating ranges or allow a 5 stack to fight against solo players just to keep ques down…
Ok? That doesn’t really translate to anything tangible. It’s more just for internet brownie points.
The only people you see talking about it are the “my game better than yours” crowd.
Only happens in open queue because no one really plays that mode, relatively speaking.
Role queue still fine on that front.
It makes $50-100m a month and has 20m+ active accounts each month, over 100m accounts total.
For comparison sake. MR did $100m in its first month and only recently went past 20m accounts.
OW is healthy. You just don’t like it (or don’t like it as much) anymore. Which is fine. You don’t have to play it, there’s new fun things for you to play now.
It doesnt make that much money. Not even close to…
OW is a game free of chinese rootkits, far eastern cencorship and also with an established playerbase with invested hours in playtime. That counts for something. And you gonna laugh, but it also has more prn based on the characters. I think Venom prn would only be interesting in Japan. I have my Phd in Communication Sciences, we look at everything, dont judge.
Man I feel embarrased now. To save my grace, we are working on quantum entangled carbon fullerenes for instant interstellar communication.
Can quantum entanglement be used for instant communication?
No. While quantum entanglement can cause particles to collapse instantaneously over long distances, we can’t use that to transport information faster than the speed of light.
Its not even about le game is better, its what is actaully alive and not. 20 min que times on sundays isnt “doing well”, and them selling 40 euro skins dosnt make the game any better… https://imgur.com/a/cxtT6QW
happens in role que ranked as well. 4-5 stacks vs 5 randoms or 3 randoms 2 duo que.
yet again, them selling skils to wales does not count for anything when the intrest in this game is literally zero.
so true, no point at wasting your time at any blizzard games where we get suspended for no reason. I did not even get what part of EULA i broken. They just do as they please.
Marvel Rivels looks SUPER… better graphics to… fun gameplay. good support and company by Epic games.
You’re playing an arcade mode… Of course your queues are long.
I will take your word for it, i’ve seen no proof of it happening in either my games or anyones games I’ve watched.
I want to make a joke about the Welsh being allowed skins too…
But, hypothetically, if the interest was zero, they wouldn’t sell any skins at all. Them selling shows there is interest in at least that aspect of the game.
You weren’t suspended for no reason. You actually know the reason… You flamed them for cheating. Which is totally understandable, but you leave yourself wide open. Don’t do it. It isn’t worth your time.
The cheater doesn’t care. They care even less about your account.
