2025 is kicking off with the next evolution in Overwatch PvP gameplay.
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Credit where credit is due. They are giving the game a much needed shake up.
All the forum criers who claimed the Devs had given up on the game because s14 was quiet look pretty silly now.
That being said, it might all be rubbish. We shall see. But I have hope.
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Where’s the 
who said lootboxes couldn’t come back because they’re illegal…
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Looks like we’ll finally be able to play in third person mode in the mods thing been wanting this for a while…
I like the introduced roadmap where you can see which mythics they are working on and what is next.
Perks look awesome.
Lootboxes would be great if all skins could be included (newest could appear in it a year later, for example), including legacy, locked, and removed ones, etc.
Pushing pronouns felt too much and out of context.
Reaper skins again with skulls are too monotonous and repetitive.
Mythic staff for Mercy, I imagined that would be something angelic with sun/cosmic rays, heavenly threads pulsing around.
Not touching the Defense Matrix and cheater problem is a big minus.
Not returning previous Battle passes and option to complete them after giving them free for China is a mistake.
Giving China 3-4k worth of cosmetics while not offering a single free skin is nothing but a hate crime.
Overall, 7/10.
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They are, they won’t be available in a large pool of countries.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t “bought” lootboxes illegal, and not free ones earnable through challenges?
(i.e. a free lootbox per level up in OW 1 was perfectly legal)
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Details are expected in the next few days, we still don’t know how they work in exact detail (especially in the frequency of obtaining lootbox).
I read through all the perks: Love it. Makes heroes more flexible without forcing to hard swap heroes!
Can we get some UI updates with team hero hp bars? As well as names are greyed when out of range or LOS?
Love the update! We will see if 5v5 or 6v6 shines more!
Just gave it a look and god damn, each move you do, you put your game more close to his tomb.
Grey area.
It’s not about whether it’s bought or not, it’s about who is obtaining them.
IF (and it’s a big if) they come with big balance changes next season. It should be fine.
Firstly, healing numbers need to come down. Healing is already over tuned. You add tanks pretty much all having abilities to heal, shield, armour teammates… It’s going to be stupid.
At that point you know the meta will be all the sustain, as that’s where it always ends up.
Next would be the return Portrait Borders, not the ones that were shown in the Live Letter… I mean Spotlight. Since those Portrait Borders shown in the Spotlight just reward those who play ranked 
Also about the Lootboxes, are they seriously limiting Lootboxes within the first 80 Ranks of the Battle Pass?? I have 2 Problems with that:
- The Battle Pass rewards up to Rank 200, so why not spreading the Lootbox Rewards a bit more apart?
- Currently, after reaching Battle Pass Rank 200, there is no reason to play The Game anymore, which is a Problem Overwatch Never Had, because in Overwatch 1 you could just play the Game, progress your Account Level, show off a shiny Portrait Border (for just playing the Game) and Every Account Level Up was rewarded with a Lootbox.
They could be sneaky and reward Every Second Battle Pass Rank Up with a Lootbox, because Account Level Rank Ups were 20k EXP, like 2 Battle Pass Rank Ups are in Overwatch 2, but limiting Lootboxes to those first 80 Ranks is just a waste.
Also, stating chances isn’t trasparent at all, it’s just stating a fact. It would be more transparent to tell if those Lootboxes contain previous Battle Pass Items, that would compensate Battle Pass Reruns…
wait a second… did they say that the Premium Battle Pass contains more Lootboxes!? !?
If you cross real money transactions with Lootboxes, It’s Gambling!
Nobody should’ve a Problem with Lootboxes as long as no real money is involved!
practically, just reward every 2nd Battle Pass Rank with a Lootbox and gg… but no
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The loot boxes will be as part of the battle pass… So, you will be.
Honestly. It’s a stupid decision. But no one that’ll impact them in any way because people don’t think past themselves.
I know this is probably going to fall on deaf ears, but I beg you to reconsider Perks. Please please please don’t add it to the game, at least not as a core part of the gameplay. Overwatch has been my favorite game for over 8 years now and this completely ruins my enjoyment of it. I’m so so disappointed in this change and I don’t understand why it’s coming to begin with, I haven’t heard of anyone who wanted this. When perks were tested in the arcade gamemodes I played it for 2-3 games and then stopped, I didn’t want to play it anymore.
I’m struggling a bit with my words, I am just devastated. I hope you will change your mind, but I know that you probably won’t. I just have to at least voice my frustration with this. Personally I would rather have heard you say that you’re not gonna update the game for a whole year than hear you’re adding perks. And it’s JUST perks, every other update I’m positive or neutral to. I think hero bans and map voting are great additions, but it doesn’t help when you break the core gameplay. I’m not interested in Stadium but it’s not like I’m being forced to play that if I want to play Overwatch, so I’m just neutral.
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Some of the perks look ok. Like they’ll actually add to the core gameplay loop
Others, like widows are just unnecessary buffs
I’m not for or against it until I try it. But the list I’m 50/50 on
Stadium looks interesting, but I probably won’t play much of it. I play wrecking ball. I’m in 3rd person most of the time anyways.
The Battle Pass in OW2 is nothing but limiting the Game.
In OW1 I could just hop in whenever I want and grind my Portrait Border+ earning Lootboxes.
OW2’s Battle Pass stops being rewarding after Rank 200.
The Positive Side Effect is that everytime, I hit 200, I can just log off and stop caring until the next season… but it’s sad to even get to that way of thinking about a Game in general…
but I thinking about Lootboxes being tied to the Battle Pass seriously reenforces the Gambling Argument since you can purchase Battle Pass Rank for Real Money…
They should just bring back the Account Level Progression and tied Lootboxes to that, since Account Level Progression cannot get influenced by Real Money (like the Battle Pass), Lootboxes can be there as a Free Reward. … Given, that OW2 Lootboxes only contain rewards from previous Battle Passes.
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I will take your word for it, I never look at it.
True. Yet more stuff I didn’t bother looking at, don’t think I ever opened a loot box (apart from when we had it forced on us), or even noticed my border changing.
200? thought it was 80… is that where the stupid name tag things come from?
Tbf, the “gambling” part is never paying for it. It is earning stuff of value. Ie, to sell on. Now, technically, you can’t in OW… but we all know about account trading.
There will be some for challenges and all that guff no doubt.
Whilst I agree battle passes in some games are poorly priced… they will never be scummy like loot boxes.
Agreed. It’s not gambling, it’s gifts you’ve earned by leveling up. Absolutely nothing to do with gambling.
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If you really care for shiny icons showing off your level, you can do just that with the hero levels.
But if you need an incentive to keep playing the, it feels like you didn’t like playing it anyway.
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