Smurfing is Cheating + Gameplay Sabotage

[Star-22803]

@BartFitz-2928

As far as Star goes, if you play a gold Tracer in GM you should fall out.

Why should you fall of GM, when your a Support main, and play support heroes at a high standard ?
That’s like saying Custa a Support main in OWL shouldn’t be playing at OWL because he can’t play Tracer at the same levels

[BartFitz-2928]

Let me rephrase it then.

If you are a support player and play Tracer; and play Tracer on a significantly lower efficency than your main hero, you should rightfully fall out of your elo because you become your own enemy.

[Basso-2139]

@BartFitz-2928

Let me rephrase it then.

If you are a support player and play Tracer; and play Tracer on a significantly lower efficency than your main hero, you should rightfully fall out of your elo because you become your own enemy.

So why not make smurf to train tracer? Why would you ruin games at your other accounts rank if you can have another account that represents your skill at dps?

[Star-22803]

Which is precisely why, you create a new account to play and get good with Tracer . Thereby becoming a Smurf.

[Bustar-2828]

Sounds good. Reporting smurfs, flaming smurfs, making them feel bad(although I doubt it is possible since most of them revel in getting negative attention) is all I can do to fight the good fight.

Basically make 100% sure those people are not wanted in our games.

[Basso-2139]

@Badafarusima-2824

didn’t say it wasn’t a problem, but smurfs aren’t any better because at their skill level, compared to mine they might as well be cheating

You said it was arguable better. So your saying cheating wasnt a problem. And your also saying that smurfing is cheating. Your contradicting your self here.

@Badafarusima-2824

at the end of the day you don’t understand my position because you smurf, because you do it you don’t see anything wrong with it, just like how people who smoke weed don’t think it should be illegal

Yeah I have smurfs. I have no hard time understanding your position. The thing is like Ive said like 3 times already that artificially manipulating sr is bannable offense I also think that is a problem. Also smoking weed is legal in some countries already. Saying something is wrong because its illegal is a bad argument. Being gay was illegal. Its not anymore because people figured out that you shouldnt be punished for being gay (even tho some countries still punish you for being gay, its pretty much ok to be gay in most countries). Not gonna argue about that because concepts like that are way out of your thinking capabilities because you have hard time understanding simple arguments.

@Badafarusima-2824

but to us people who only have one account and have to suffer against smurfs ruining our matches there is a problem… which you don’t see…

Ive had people who have artificially manipulated their SR ruin my games. It happens to everyone. Dont think your special.

@Badafarusima-2824

and i could care less what you say or think because you are a smurf… and are part of the problem

But your a part of a thing that you think is a problem so you dont care what you say either?

@Badafarusima-2824

so… one question… can you stop me? “thinking…” nope… you can’t… so… imma continue doing what i do getting smurfs banned for cheating and making peoples lives miserable… and… you can go and suck a fornication…

No I dont have the power. I cant stop you unless I can convince you that what your doing is bad. But at least Im not fighting fire with fire.

[Basso-2139]

^^^^
There is my post. I dont really understand why that needed moderation. Most likely because of the word g a y

[Badafarusima-2824]

thinks because he cant convince me smurfing is good that i can’t understand simple concepts like changes in culture…

yes smoking weed in some countries is legal, if you smoke weed where it is legal its fine, not a problem, if you smoke it where it is illegal, it is bad, and you shouldn’t do it

if you are being homosexual in a country where it is legal it is fine, if you are being homosexual in a country where it is illegal then it is bad and you shouldn’t do it

are you understanding this? or should i speak slower to you?

as for the lovely little rhymes… its not that i’m not capable of understanding you it’s that we had a lovely little circle jerk where i explained to you the meaning of the title post, and why smurfs should be banned…

then, all you could do to retort was argue idiotic points and attempt to twist language to fit your agenda, and when that didn’t work you resort to belittling and name calling

and that is why i won the argument because you had to call me nasty names and try to shame me “shrugs” am i bothered? me thinks not… full steam ahead with the smurfpocalypse

p.s i’m gonna be the bigger man and let you have the last word, if your ego is so bruised and your male reproductive organ so minuscule that you really need it…

toodles…

[Basso-2139]

@Badafarusima-2824

if you are being homosexual in a country where it is legal it is fine, if you are being homosexual in a country where it is illegal then it is bad and you shouldn’t do it

How do you not be homosexual if you are a homosexual? I dont think it works that way. Maybe it does. Im heterosexual and I cant make my self homosexual if I want to.

And like said speaking of consepts like this with you seems pretty useless.

[Badafarusima-2824]

perhaps not have homosexual relations while in a country where it is illegal?

be as homosexual as you like… in your head… but don’t complain if you are doing something illegal and get caught and punished for it not all countries are enlightened and you cant expect them to adhere to your “feelings”, their country, their rules… deal with it or leave

[Basso-2139]

@Badafarusima-2824

perhaps not have homosexual relations while in a country where it is illegal?

be as homosexual as you like… in your head… but don’t complain if you are doing something illegal and get caught and punished for it not all countries are enlightened and you cant expect them to adhere to your “feelings”, their country, their rules… deal with it or leave

I said I see no point discussing about this topic with you. But if you research a bit about the history you understand why you have to do homosexual things even if its illegal to get it legal.

[Basso-2139]

@Badafarusima-2824

ohh dear…do you not like the real world snowflake… need your safe space? brown people not treating you fairly because you like to stick things up your bum and they don’t like that in their own country and you are too entitled to F**k off when you’re not wanted? ohh dear… maybe the lovely forth riech… AHEM! i mean EU can help you with your feelings by letting some more of those lovely brown people who don’t like you sticking things up your bum into your country! that will help right? ohh but the EU will be dead in a few years… too bad… guess you and your feelings will have to go to Sweden…

??? Are you missing the point on purpose or what? Go educate your self and read some history or something. Are you sticking your fingers to your ears again and just speaking something because you clearly have hard time either reading or understanding what Im saying.

[Yarzahn-2433]

1. Anyone is free to buy the game multiple times. It’s a free market and it’s their money.
2. They can’t be punished by limitations of a matchmaking system that is part of the game. Assuming otherwise is simply ignorance.
3. After a couple dozen games, they will be more or less at their real MMR and no longer smurfs.

Personally I don’t give a sh*t if someone buys a second account just to feel powerful for a few hours of gameplay. Statistically they appear rarely and are just as likely to be on the opposite team as my own team, not really affecting my long term performance.

[LeoDuke-21161]

If blizzard get money out of it then it’s not a problem sadly.

[Basso-2139]

@LeoDuke-21161

If blizzard get money out of it then it’s not a problem sadly.

Blizzard got money from banning cheaters. Why not ban smurfs then? Its free real estate. I mean money. Real money.

[Whap-21954]

Well this thread turned out hilarious. Watching the OP descend into what seems to be a full-on meltdown is entertaining as hell.

I think we broke him :<

[Badafarusima-2824]

no… you diddnt break me, i was simply arguing the idiotic points set forth by the mighty basso who doesnt understand culture or law… shrugs

[random-23776]

Blizzard will accept anything as long as they are paid. And yes those smurfs ruin the game with their fake accounts and fake names but they paid blizzard so blizzard has been overseeing this issue for a long time. Hell, they forced me to change my name in my only account, which had no offensive issues, insulting or anything for that matter. I guess they want me to pay them for the name “asdf”.

[IKO-21954]

Blizzard won’t do that, they would lose money. do you have any idea how much Blizzard makes because of smurfing? the answer is millions, they won’t address this. Also many “fair” smurfs never lose on purpose to keep their current rank, they progress. but yes, you also have people that do this and they should be banned, but the smurfing “problem” won’t be addressed because Blizzard would lose millions doing so.

[Badafarusima-2824]

so we address it by reporting the smurfs and having blizzards automated system ban them for us, simples