This link explains the new Mercy Nerf perfectly
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She is starting to feel like an off healer… but not even a good one.
Zen and Lucio do their healing relatively passively: aura and orb (yes you target orb, but damage is still a focus), whereas Mercy can do one of the other, damage or healing.
She’s too team reliant to be a truly effective off support like Lucio, but, well, I’m happy for it. If Mercy remained a must pick… where would Moira and Ana be? Took countless buffs to get Ana to where she is now, give it time and patience and then Mercy will get a change to her mobility, calling it now.
Besides… I think the leagues will appreciate less Mercy widow pocketing.
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Why not post this on the right topic? You are just breaking the code of conduct. They are 100 mercy topics and im not going to comment on eatch and every one why mercy was and still is unfair.
All i will say is that if her kit stays the same its unfair to push the numbers on it. Just rework that skill-less kit and she might be fair but as of now mercy is just hold m1 or m2 and chill.
I fail to see why this topic is in the wrong area
And mercy does take quite a lot of skill to play. She has to maintain a check on all local team mates health and divide attention appropriately, buffing some and healing others. She relies heavily on her game sense and surroundings as she has no ability to fight back or escape when cornered and she can be isolated surprisingly quickly by people like Brigitte
Letting her healing potential slip more and more isn’t helping anyone.
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Best to ignore Wickedlike, he’s just a Mercy hater and you’re wasting your time trying to debate with him. “Duur duur Mercy requires no skill” is all you’re gonna get from him.
She released only on game since there is no mechanical or any other skill involved when you play her.
Only thing mercy can mesplay is a badly timed resurrect.
Im not here to chanced peoples oppinions on mercy im just here to host mine and its that mercys current kit cant be balance for fair top 500 play and still be fair for the rest of the ranks.
I dont hate Angela but mercys kit is just hard to banced.
They buff mercy’s current kit and make it viable for top 500 then 80% of the lower ranks will come to the forum and complain like seen before.
Im all down for a rework on that hero and one will for sure come.
Since they cant balanced old sym to be good for high rank and be fair for low rank so they reworked her. Mercy has nearly the same problem.
Currently they are reworking torb and let’s face it he had the same problem…
How long will you take replying i have things to do. Know that its nearly impossible to chance my oppinion of mercys current set, ive been with this game since season 1 and i’ve played mercy a respectable amount of times ever since her version 1.0.
Well I’ve said this idea before, but what I think they need to do is to put in some sort of mechanic that adds an extra layer of skill expression whilst keeping the spirit of the hero alive.
The best way to do this in my opinion is to add in some sort of resource mechanic like Torbs scrap or the mist orbs generated by Monks in World of Warcraft. As healing is done or damage is taken or whatever, orbs of light are generated and Mercy can decide to use her mobility (her strength / her skill) to collect those orbs which could boost her in some way, either boosting her healing output or for charging her res or whatever.
What they actually decide to have these orbs do can be decided by Blizz but the point is that Mercy is expressing skill in order to boost herself because at the moment Mercy has a fixed rate of healing or boosting damage so her skill expression is on how long she can stay alive and her targeting and fast reaction to try and heal the person most in danger of dying. Other healers have ways to boost their output at the right time like Moira stacking healing stream and casting an orb and Ana tossing her grenade.
Mercy could even save up those light orbs and activate them during times of need to save people in a desperate brawl. Because the problem with nerfing her healing is that she simply can’t output enough to keep people alive in a brawl situation.
My solution helps rectify two perceived problems with her. “Waa, Mercy requires no skill!” and the more realistic issue of her not being able to boost her healing in times when it’s required of her.
Maybe it helps to think of it in terms of a MMORPG. Healers in those games tend to have some extra mechanic to help them unload more healing when the tank gets low. Mercy currently lacks this and that’s the main issue with her at the moment in my opinion.
I’m replying to the thread in general. Your opinion means very little to me as I just consider you to be a troll. 
Go away and do the things you have to do, dude. I’d rather debate with real people anyway.
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sry touth it was some huge reply calling me a mercy hate since you started typing it when i rlyed to you.
And its funny to see people thinking that the oder guys oppinion is troll.
Just shows how mercy mains care for nothing but mercy beeing a must pick in every single team comp and for every SR.
This comment here means that you’re a troll. That’s just clear to me and anyone else with sense. You could make arguments about how this hero requires more skill in this area than that ectect, that’s called debating. But you’re just blanket statementing her as requiring no skill at all which is obviously wrong.
You’re allowed to have your opinion even if it’s obviously wrong, but expressing it in a trollish manner over and over again in every thread about Mercy means that you’re a troll.
Get it?
Anyway, that’s all I’m gonna give you on this. If you want to morph into a mature person and start debating her with a better attitude then I may respond. If it’s just more boring trolling then I have no time for you and my initial post stands.
Guess I’m just weird for actually liking Mercy now. Finally enough of a difference to make it feel like having a choice.
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Ill just say that even the game has judged mercy’s skill cap with 1 star.
This list isn’t made by me but the game devs or whoever inserted it into the game.
1 star heroes:
Roadhog
Pharah
Bastion
Reinhardt
Mercy
Brigitte
Soldier: 76
Reaper
2 star heroes:
Symmetra
Moira
LĂşcio
Winston
Orisa
D.Va
Widowmaker
Torbjörn
Junkrat
Tracer
Mcree
3 star heroes:
Mei
Hanzo
Genji
Sombra
Doomfist
Zarya
Ana
Zenyatta
At the moment Mercy feels 100% fair for what it takes to get valiu out of her. I can see how that might be weak for Esports or Top 500 but its bad to balanced heroes with Mercy’s kit for that level of play since it will just destroy anything below it. That’s the only reason i think she needs to get a good rework.
I’ve read a lot of good suggestions on how her Primary fire can get increased healing to non mobile heroes(More healing on non moving targets) but for sure they need to nerf the pimerly a little more if that happens.
Seen once that want her to heal more but only if she used damage boost on a sucesfull damaging shot to change a healing bar like Moira.
I just don’t wanna see the playstyle she enables on a competative level… Like she can’t miss nor misplay… Mercy’s can only make bad decisions.
Every hero needs game sence to be palyed but nearly all of them have a chance to not only misplay but miss(shots/abilitys) in general. That’s something Mercy mains just love to ignor when it comes down to talking about Mercy.
Mercys only downside is that she can get killed when she goes for a greedy resurrect.
Wanna know why they nerfed Mercy’s healing? Well ill tell you, its cause Zen and Mercy are the best support duo. So when they lowered Mercys healing even a little she can no longer be the main support in the set up with little to no effort. Cause stacking dmg buffs that cant miss is fair on top of resurrect. Mercy is still good at high level play, she’s just not meta anymore. Just a month agol she had the best win rate and pick rate.
Thanks for reminding me that the forum still doesn’t have a block feature.
Most useless healer yet she is still a tier 1 pick.
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Yes they had one in the past, they removed it, same with the downvote button cause topics like this just got destroyed by it.
Because they’re not put under the same topic because they’re Mercy topics. They’re put together because most of them are exclusively revert topics which breaks the rule as they’re just repeating the same thing that has been repeated for months now. There aren’t even official comments on the topics because a revert isn’t going to happen as Mercy 1.0 was fundamentally flawed and unhealthy to the game
Did you play old Mercy? She had higher CD on GA which meant that you were moving less often, she didn’t have any abilities other than that so you could either hold your staff or your pistol and her ultimate was a fly in and use once. That version of Mercy was a complete healbot that pressed ult once every now and then.
The newer version hutilizes GA much more for complex movement, Rez is a risky ability to use unless your team coordinates which forces you to be interactive and during her ultimate you’ll have to actively use movement and prioritize targets and when to use AoE heals vs. AoE damage boost. I would say that Mercy 2.0 is ten times more interactive than the old version but 0 times 10 is still a 0
Like said in the video: Mercy is just plain undertuned right now. She was in line with other healers in terms of statistics previously, but her pickrate was bloated simply because she had the highest team synergy with the previous meta roster (Zen, Hanzo, Widow, Zarya, Rein) out of all the heroes in the whole game. That synergy was nerfed to the ground because she can’t damage boost Dragonstrike anymore and Grav was nerfed which is fine because it was getting stale. She needs her 10HPS back to stay viable as having main healer Mercy vs main healer Ana is now one of the worst matchups you can have in competitive high tier gameplay which is absurd
They are like 30 topics “why mercy nerf was to much” and etc.
At this point i myself dont know at witch of them im replying to since when i log on to the forum i have replys on all of them. I have no clue what i have menntion on every one of them and i end up wasting 30 min of back tracking just to get on the same point i had goin on the last one. It makes is extreamly hard to counter debate when i have to repeat most of my counter agruments over and over.
Not only is it annoying but i can be missing out on credible details from all the repeating i have to do when i’m expressing my opinion about mercy since the 100 topics that are just a Copy past at the end of the day.
Spamming post is jsut pety and it shows that Mercy mains dont even care to look up if the topic exist since spamming more topics just pushes their agenda. To make Mercy a 100% must pick in every game and team comp and to make her look like a weak heroes. (and shes not)
I’m sure that it forces your team to interact with you not the other way around.
Ill be Mercy is the only support that can
1 Heal behind barriers. (exluding Zens weak healing orb) But not only that she can heal and dmg boost up to 3 players behind shields. Making her the best suport for braw comps next to Moira since Moira needs her ult and Moias ult is x10 times more fair since it doesnt make her immune to everything thats not hitscan by giving her movespeed/flying speed.
2 Shes the only support that can resurrect someone.
Her ult is really good since it just makes her immuno to anything thats not hit scan.
I think its perfect that Mercy doesnt heal as much as Winston damages people, Since winston is taking a lot of risks when his going in to do dmg unlike mercy.
Mercy healing is the right way to go. Instant and infinity dmg boost supports have no place in the “main” support role since Pros love stacking Mercy and Zen dmg boost to help the teams MVP. Boosting dmg takes no skill nor can it miss.
Resurrect cant miss as well, her healing cant miss as well, her distance curret is really hard to missplay with unless its getting spammed. Mercy is a super safe hero, The moment they give her back her numbers she wil once again dominate the game.
Mercy was meta for 10 seasons and she still is. Mercy was in 90% of the contenders playoffs games and she did really well in them.
The team comp of Zen, Mercy, Brigitte, Zarya, Rine and Hanzo is still prity darn strong. They want to break Mercy and Zen apart and making them both flex supports was the best way they can do that.
https://youtu.be/B1ideG8WRwo Here in this Brigitte disicuse video on games from the contenders playoffs games just shows that Mercy will still see high level play since shes in every game picked on both sides only for 1 min did the swap Mercy for Moira. Shes by far not a weak nor a fair hero by disaine simply from the fact that shes immune to mechanical missplays. Mind you the video is from Aug 29, 2018 so shes with her nerfs same for Brigitte and Zarya yet we still see meta play from them.
Ill be all i wanna say is that every time they buff her current kit, people like me will come to the forums and complane that its not fair.
To many pros and streamers quited this season by saying “why do i play X if i can just pick Y and do better with less skills” (that doesnt mean no skill, it just means that some heroes are more easy and that makes them less stresfull) so once they get power creeped like old mercy was, it just destroyed everything but the rank/SR it was balanced for.
I as someone who use to be a one-trick am mad that Mercy one-tricking is ok but every other hero was bad. That dubble standatd needed to go and this patch was the perfect way to remove it. Must pick heroes are bad, and that’s what mercy was for more then 70% of the players.
Mercy is not a weak hero for me, i might think that her skill cap is off but shes not a weak hero at all. She will see meta play just cause she can resurrect and DMG boost.
Im sorry did she show any statistics in that video? No she didnt even keep track of them like i do since im discousing Mercy since her version 1.0 on the forums, the one with the mass resurrect.
Mercy jsut last month was most pick and had the best win rate not only from the support heroes but the game in general. And when you look at what it takes to get her full valiu out it was just a joke to competitive play.
You forgot Brigitte, thats the main heroes Mercy doesnt need more healing. Not only is it bad to that she was stacked with Zen non stop (cause Mercy dmg boost and zen defence debuff made hanzos new ability one shot any hero with 250 hp.
Mercy dmg boost makes Mcrees headshot an instakill on 200 hp targets, add zen and you can one shot 250 hp once, and it helped widow do her job a lot faster.
Now they are stacked with Brigitte since Brigitte is not a main support shes even weaker and an off/flex support pick by healing power. Mercy can make up for all her weaknesses by keeping DMG boost on someone or Resurrecting them.
Mercy is still the best healer for Braw comps, buldoser comps and snipers/hitscan cannon type heroes, she can even make even do well in dive comps.
I’m all down for a Mercy rework and seen how hard it is on Blizzard to balanced her i’m 100% sure that one will come to her.
Yes but when Mercy was a main suppoer the stacked her with Zen and abused the infinity dmg boost. Now that team is x10 time harder just like it needs to be from a team that can enable one shots.
Why is zen not a main support Mercy has close to everything that zen offers but he cant resurrect and Mercy has better stats then Zen on her utility.
Now Mercy and Zen are = and its fair. Support started to see a lot of diversity and thats x100 times better than pick zen and mercy. Something that is still a thing but not as easy to abused as before.
Excuse me if you jump an ana she will instantly stop healing something thats someting Mercys and Zens dont do. And Ana cant solo escape from 2+ players jumping/diving her, Mercy and even zen with his ulty can. Ana at best will try to sleep one and die if she misses or get in a 1 v 1 for 5 sec if she hits the sleep.
Im not calling Ana weak but Ana is x 1000 times more fair and interactive then Mercy’s current kit.
I was talking about you
The fact that’s she not as fun as she use be hurts me. At this point they make a new Mercy, a Cooler Mercy that has a leather jacket and sunglasses with a shotgun.