I play supportts in mid plat. I am doing decent with Ana. Depending on the circumstances I can pull out nearly 20k healing or more. My accuracy is around 70% unscoped and 70%+ scoped. It used to be more before Ana couldn’t shoot through full health allies.
Every single time when I play Ana and happen to lose a game, someone starts asking everyone to report me for playing Ana.
It’s not that I don’t switch if I need to. As Mercy is my go to solution I often switch to Mercy when I’m constantly getting dived or don’t feel like Ana is good enough in a particular situation (eg. king of the hill maps, or there is a really good insert dive hero name here on the enemy team and keeps taking me out). In fact I often switch to Mercy when they ask me to do so.
I am already over many account penalties just for playing Ana a lot. The blizz support says that the large amount of reports is enough to get me suspended. So basicially they do not give a flying f about actual evidence and facts, they are using the sole amount of reports as an evidence against me.
Why do you always keep looking for a scapegoat whenever you lose? Of course, when you lose a game it must be the off meta healer and not the fact that we already have three dpses and you pick the 4th one. It’s not that we are running zarya roadhog on 2cp defense. It must be the Ana right?
Here are the very recent hate messages I got today: https://imgur.com/a/tdfRZuD
The hate doesn’t end ingame, the same thing is happening right here on the forums: https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/about-the-ana-buffs/1514/17
I just want to play the game without getting reported every other game.
I get lots of similiar messages on a daily basis and it makes me not want to play the game anymore that I used to enjoy.
I can only and truly respect you for wanting to better yourself and play the only rightfull healer, that should be the best choice period, becuase she is way harder than all the other main healers.
Fact of the matter is, we will have to wait for next nerf wave, where mercy gets more nerfs, the 10 HPS adresses jack all, when its her liability, ease of use, never punished design, thats at fault. Also ress, but we will never see that go out the window, so we will have to design around it.
She needs to not heal through barriers (or other healers to heal through it as well), she needs to have more cd on her GA, her hps needs adjusting, like a longer CD (This needs to be looked at, when they also change the GA CD, since the regen is not a big problem then). She needs to not be able to heal characters, that she is not even looking at, every other healer has to focus on healing, while she can roam, spot and check out the whole battlefield, while her mouse 1 does her job. Her healing needs to break instantly on loss of LOS, to prevent the 50+ healing through a wall and so on. Also it would be nice if she cant ress unless she is on solid ground. To prevent ridic mid air resses and not getting interrupted by loads of boop abilities, if they arent timed completely perfect.
There are lots of toxic people and they’ll be toxic for all sorts of reasons. Take this Darkwaver guy here. He’s gushing over you for picking the “better” hero. He’s saying that Mercy isn’t a rightful healer and that Ana is harder to play. Obviously anyone with sense understands that the two heroes have very different challenges associated with them if you want to play them well. Mercy players get all sorts of grief and abuse because some people consider her to be super easy to play, but this is just because these players don’t understand what goes into playing her.
So, my point is that parts of this toxic community will attack you for which ever hero you play. You’re going to get abuse no matter who you pick. It isn’t all sun shine and rainbows for Mercy players either.
Call out every on-meta hero and healer out if you sniff the slightest underperformance. If they refuse to switch or won’t entertain the thought report them.
Blizz has said hero picks per se are not reportable. Surely there were other details mentioned in customer serivce interaction why the reports still stand. However those standards ought to be applicaple to every player equally.
If it is okay for players to ask for a mercy then it should be okay to ask a random soldier to go mei.
In case blizzard doesn’t want to work out what is kosher and what is not there should be ability to have a community discussion and decision on what the lines are. That is annonymous reports are bad for defining what the actual crimes are (they are okay about discovering who has committed what).
problem i have with ana is half the time you shoot the wrong target but i’m talking about lower ranks (i’m low silver often falling down to bronze because people 1trick bad choices/troll)
Is it really “asking to report every single time” when you lose a game with Ana?
Then I don’t want to get to Platinum, doesn’t sound good.
If you are looking for a sloution of sorts, I’d say use the group finder, and play with regulars that get to know your skill level with Ana. Be active on mic.
Just ignore what they are saying, even mute them if you have to and you could even report them for abusive chat. Anyway, it says in the game that you cannot be punished for playing a hero so don’t worry. And if you do get punished then just ask the support team to help you as you are not at fault.
It will probably start decreasing once you get to diamond, and it’ll be gone in master. You’re still playing with people who haven’t learned to interpret what is going on around them.
Admittedly, you will probably get to diamond faster if you pick the best healer for the task at hand, and in plat (where people f*ck up and die for no reason all the time) that’s usually Mercy. But if that makes the game boring, you’re better off staying on Ana. Unless a match is super close, you’ll have the same result no matter which of the two you pick.
There’s usually a reason for hate towards supports and the reason is usually reasonable. I’ve probably never seen any unreasonable frustration towards supports as the complains have always been somebody playing Moira with Dive comp or just going DPS Lucio/Zen or something similar. Most times people have raged about Ana has been because of her slow reactions and wrong priorities.
We have barely any context here but looking at the messages you’ve received (asking others to report a player you genuinely think is violating the ToS isn’t toxic/hateful unless done in a deliberately toxic way that’s can’t be considered neutral) I think you’re having the same issues as other low MMR Ana’s are. Your priorities, placement, aim, reload times and/or reaction times seem to be off. Considering your rank and the feedback you’ve received it seems rather reasonable to assume that this is the case. This is also why people probably ask you to go Mercy as in go for a dedicated healer that can pre-emptively heal her targets covering for the problems that I previously listed. They don’t care about your personal feelings nor are they obligated or expected to, they care about having the best performance in a team that you’re apart of.
They keep saying that the sole number of reports is enough to get me punished no matter what I have done or not done.
Well, I think I am approaching my skill ceiling in a way. I can hardly make it into low diamond but I usually quickly drop down to the 2800s or even lower. But that is fine! Some players are better than others and I just happened to perform as a plattie at my best.
My principle with Ana is to keep the tanks alive, after that heal the target in the most danger and not with the most low health. For eg. I’d rather help a struggling gengi in front of our tanks than a soldier waiting with half of his hp on point.
This is a rather subjective argument.
I’d also add inconsistencies in aim and performance.
But hey this is the exact reason for why I am in platinum. Every single one of us down here struggles with the same problems regardless of what hero they play. Why is reporting an Ana for that is fine but not anyone else?
Stop mentioning “A skill”, when talking about Mercy, she is not hard to play, she was designed by Blizzard, who has stated this to be true, to be an easy to pick up healer for new players. She has no skill sets, outside of the skillsets every hero has, (positioning, game knowledge). Even so, she doesn´t have to focus on targets when healing them, healing doesn´t break, when they are behind walls or cover. She can ress while in mid air, She can jump in mid air with Ga to increase the already best healer mobility ingame.
She has self healing if she hasn´t taken dmg for 1s, her projectiles are the biggest in the game (parred with baby d.va, you ever wondered why it seems like mercy is so good, when using pistol in valk form).
And yes i do actually praise people for playing Aim related healers in an FPS, this game is a FPS E-sport, was designed that way, with the core concept being heroes to play around. As soon as healers are must picks and just in nearly every situation better at their job than the quite objectively harder healer, then something is wrong.
Stop talking to me, like i dont know anything about mercy, i play alongside and against the best mercy players the ladder has to offer. You are not a person that should be talking about a characters liability and usefullness, when you cant push higher than the start of diamond utilizing by far the easiest healer and one of the easiest characters in game, what exactly makes you understand more about the character than me, since i can easily play games with her and win in my Elo.
Nope the prejudice is worse in higher elo, people dont wanna lose up there because they take the game way more seriously. Only the top proven ana healers like ML7, is gonna be a dude no one ask to swap off of ana. Otherwise you would have to get to gm/top 500 with a majority of your playtime on Ana, to not be hated on in the start of the match, but if you lose, you are probably catching some hate from people, who didn´t recieve “Enough healing” or other things.
Nope everything about that is wrong, people are quick to blame everything but themselves. Most hate going the healers way might be because of issues they could feel from healers, but more than likely it is always issues that arrise from tanks/dps not creating space, peeling for them. Outside of this healers often catch flag if they miss shots, do something bad, but that dps player who once killed 2 people and is now just doing a sh*t ton of damage feeding ults, is the one screaming the loudest.
It’s not. Reporting such behavior counts as false reporting. There has to be something explicitly toxic about the comment such as profanity or negative/aggressive remarks towards the player. Calling somebody a “waste of space” would count as one.
That’s just a bait question not worthy answering because it assumes that it’s fine when it’s clearly and undeniably not. It’s fine to blame the Ana player for choosing a more inconsistent option for main healer if they can’t perform well enough for the team to win especially if you make that choice not based on performance reasons but personal reasons. It’s unreasonable to do a selfish decision like this and then expect not to get feedback from teammates in a competitive team-based game. Giving and receiving feedback from all possible choices we make in this game is a default and expected. Expecting otherwise is really unreasonable.
If somebody’s being toxic, you should definitely report them. If somebody’s critisizing you in a neutral tone for jeopardizing the team’s performance for your own subjective reasons then you’ll just have to handle it or not play the way you play.
Mercy has to utilise a lot of mobility to both retain cover and get into dangerous positions to maintain healing range on her allies whilst also being the prime target in a battle. Mercy has to make decisions all the time, taking into account things that Ana just doesn’t have to bother about. She’s constantly balancing her allies survival and her own whereas Ana can just sit back and tag allies at any distance.
Again, I’m not saying Ana doesn’t have her own challenges, because she does. But Mercy has challenges unique to her, which is something you obviously refuse to acknowledge, which is typical for a troll Mercy hater.
I could go on but what’s the point? You’re another boring troll. If you can’t figure the challenges associated with Mercy I can’t be arsed to put it all out here for you to just dismiss it with dumb comments like “every hero needs positioning”, like you really think it’s that simple?
Then stop talking like you don’t. Acknowledge that there are challenges that Mercy players have to deal with that Ana players do not. Stop simplifying things down to “every hero needs positioning”, because comments like that are painfully stupid. It’s like saying “every hero shoots”… you know how many asterisks go along with a statement like that?
I got to GM, not that I care or should even have to mention to you. I play this game for fun, I don’t use coms and I don’t group up. This is irrelevant anyway. You don’t have to be pro to understand game design and the challenges associated with playing a hero. So you can’t silence someone based on rank, you doofus. If we played by that rule then we’d only listen to top 10 players.
Platinum Ana players perform at a certain level. I cannot possibly imagine a situation in which is fine to report an Ana for losing but not for eg. a soldier for bad aim or something ridiciolus.
Mercy is easier to play in terms of mechanical skills and positioning that’s for sure. However Let’s not turn this topic into another Mercy haters vs. Mercy players thread.
It depends what you mean by “mechanical skills”, do you just mean aiming or do you mean control over skills like GA? Is aiming worth more than GA control? What do you mean by positioning? A Mercy has to relocate more often than Ana does because Mercy has to get much closer to the battle in order to heal whereas Ana can retain distance.
So, think before you come out with overly simplistic statements like Ana requires more skill because it’s a lot more complicated than that.
This thread is also about toxicity and it is toxic to dismiss Mercy players as brain dead or claim they don’t have any skill. I never talk down to players for which hero they play. I acknowledge the challenges associated with playing Ana, but I’m also smart enough to understand that Mercy has challenges that Ana does not.
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but i’m talking about lower ranks (i’m low silver often falling down to bronze because people 1trick bad choices/troll)
If you can’t figure the challenges associated with Mercy I can’t be arsed to put it all out here for you to just dismiss it with dumb comments like “every hero needs positioning”, like you really think it’s that simple?