The point is clearly the same.
I never said that. I was merely implying that some people at a low rank clearly don’t understand the game completely and therefore are unable to give good tips on how to make the game better.
And conversely, there are many people out there at high rank who don’t competely understand the game either, but then use their higher rank as an excuse to not have to answer to clearly logical and completely reasonable arguments, or to disregard actual cold hard facts, so it’s not entirely unsurprising that your implication could be interpreted differently 
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Only if you talk about boosted people or mercy/brigitte mains.
I think people are saying she is op because she is fairly op
Thing is, I almost rarely inspect anybody’s profile and I never even try to go as low as to base any sort of argument upon what’s on that profile.
- A large amount of players and their grandmothers, including myself and pretty much every single one of the people I usually group with have an, or multiple, alt account(s) nowadays, whether if it’s a free weekend alt or an actual bought and paid for smurf. I don’t assume that the profile viewer shows me is representative of the truth and I let people’s arguments or gameplay speak for them.
- There’s the very real chance someone with a far better profile/higher SR might just pop in and disagree with you, rendering any notion to SR useless. My experience so far is that when that happens is that the people who first argued that someone of lower SR cannot say this or that, just waltz over and past the entire thing as if the entire argument never took place
Matter of fact, most of the things I reference when I need to cite sources is material and information from GM or T500 players. Worse still, what if someone just climbs and when their SR is higher than before they were turned away for SR-reasons comes back with the same opinion regardless? - Some of the people on here may have great aim, impressive SR and a ridiculously good track record, but make about as much sense as a chicken in a ballet studio. It really shouldn’t matter you can hit a Tracer in the face mid blink from across the map if your arguments are rubbish. If I disagree with someone on a piece of art, I don’t throw my cooking skill into the debate, it has no relevance to the subject matter.
Lastly, and I know this is a long stretch, but when a 5th grader says 3 times 3 is 9, then the math professor disagrees and says the 5th grader is wrong “just cuz’ I’m a math professor”, still makes the math professor wrong and the 5th grader right, and that’s why some of these SR-arguments and Hector the Profile Inspector-reasons fall flat on the face:
Not because I’m undermining your skill or lack thereof, but because of the lousy arguments people sometimes put up
You try to think too much regarding my posts. You totally miss the point and you think I meant everyone below a certain SR is unable to give insightful ideas and advices.
I can understand how it seems that I do overthink what you’re posting, but the brunt of my reply wasn’t as much directed at you as it was a general statement towards SR-knights and profile snoopers in general 
Sorry if it seemed as if I was suspecting you were throwing shade at me, I’ve seen plenty of your posts to know well enough that you’d be man enough to call me out publically, you don’t strike me as the type to be passive aggressive.
I absolutely hate passive aggressive posters like from someone I always quarrel with on here.
But thanks for the words.
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maybe its stars real account
At least Toupher has the decency to not call them by name in an argument that doesn’t concern them, and to thank somebody for their kind words despite fundamentally disagreeing about something…
Manners matter
- Healing about the same as Lucio, pre-nerf
- Damage about the same as Lucio, pre-nerf
- Only numerical aberration pre-nerf was armor generation, possibly overtuned, that’s now been nerfed
- 25% usage in OWL, Zenyatta is top at 96%
- Pick rate steadily declining in all ranks, most notably in GM
- Pros said both 1 month ago and then again 2 weeks ago she’s well balanced
She’s supposedly the most broken hero ever and can 1v1 anyone and does absurd amounts of damage and whatnot… I ain’t seeing it.
Sources:
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2018/05/brigitte-new-hero-stat-analysis.html
https://www.winstonslab.com/customquery/pickrates/?onlyLANs=on&dateGreater=2018-05-14&dateSmaller=&event%5B%5D=86&specificMatchupTeam1=0&specificMatchupTeam2=0&team%5B%5D=&map%5B%5D=&roundtype%5B%5D=
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes/brigitte/trends
https://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-brigitte-guide/
https://www.dbltap.com/posts/6063112-overwatch-league-players-apparently-believe-brigitte-is-in-a-balanced-state
she is taking up a dps slot in the meta which isnt very healthy ;D
though that is also kind of hanzo’s fault
Personally I think people pay far too much attention to the role categorization which is just a guideline for new players.
yes we know that
but its almost the same issue as the old roadhog had mostly
you didnt need a second dps slot because you already had something that could help your dps and still tank/cc (aka do his own role and also do something else)
I mean that’s how hybrids work, not to mention every hero is capable of dealing damage. It’s only an issue if they can do multiple things too effectively. And since Brigitte is like a Lucio in terms of healing/damage, and the both of them get outhealed by Moira and out-DPSed by Zenyatta that’s hardly the case.
you dont see lucio running around stunning people, insta killing people, saving allies with one button, and having an ult that makes most character’s damage useless
its also kind of how the old solder 76 was
he was meant to do a bunch of things but he was too good at them
I can describe Lucio’s kit in a way that makes him sound really OP, especially when using hyperbole. Doesn’t mean anything though, show some hard data.
you dont see lucio running around stunning people for 1 second every 5 seconds, dealing instant 155 damage with stun melee and whipshot, being able to heal allies for 150 with a click of a button or giving them 75 armor and having an ultimate that reduces tracer’s, reaper’s, roadhog’s, moira’s, winston’s, zarya’s, ana’s, sombra’s, doomfist’s, symmetra’s primary way of dealing damage
did i miss something
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hybrids dont work that way.
If you have a hero thats lets say.
100% dps 100% tank 100% healer.
A fair hybrid will be to take 33% from every aspect. (Or something that will addup close to 100% at the end but i will keep it round.)
Some ppl will rightfully say that if you took only 33% of it it wount work out in neather of the 3 aspects cause it woun’t be feelth. So a fair way to make it will be 40% 40% 40% overmaxing the numbers alil so the set hero doesnt fail in all 3 aspects.
But now when i look at brigitte it feels like its 70% 70% 70%. Making a huge inpact in all 3 aspects. Overshadowing most heroes even the once that dont take part in diving.
I dumb way to be stared in, but thats how i feel about her.
i agree with your statement that shes generally not op, just pure annoying to deal with same way with mei.
but understand that you can’t fight her 1v1 in close range, and its all becaus of the stun,
even if you see it coming its insanely hard to avoid it,
and if you get too close there isn’t a way to stop it.
other stun abilities need timing and skill to bring out their full potential, with Brigette its a button and your done, this what makes it annoying for a lot of players, the low skill stun makes it feel unfair, generally if i get stunned to a mcree or roadhog i will admit it took skill to land a hit but i cant to brigitte.
she was designed to be an off tank and support character, but Blizzard also made her to counter a meta,
to me, this is bad game design,
they focused too hard on making a counter to the meta, instead of giving support players a chance to feel useful when it comes to playing a tank,
and what we got, is a character who can’t do both and the only viable thing about her, is her stun,
again bad game design and i really hope they change it soon becaus, each game i play against a Brigitte it feels like hell. especially when I’m playing a tank and lose my ult because of the unavoidable stun.
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