Absolutely NOT! Nerfing her more will spin back the Dive / Flank meta in all it’s glory. We don’t want a repeat of the same old drama we have had to put up with since season 4.
The Dive meta is still viable in the higher levels, and more than Brig countering Dive, it’s Hanzo shutting down dive in the current live patch, as said by Muma from LA Gladiators. Those guys are running skrims on the current patch, and think it’s not Brig that’s hard countering dive as much. Nerf her more and she’ll be unable to touch dive. https://clips.twitch.tv/ThoughtfulGlutenFreeOkapiKevinTurtle
The game has always been balanced since Season 1 based on the higher levels of the player base. Why you may ask ?
Because that’s the group that knows best how to play this game and understand it best. Hence balancing around the lower tiers will never make sense because it’s only a matter of adaption. This game can’t be balanced around the lower level player base just so it’s fun for them, because doing so will make such nerfed heroes un-picked at the higher ello’s. Sym and Torb are examples of those… Which is why they are getting reworked.
Brig is picked enough at the higher ellos currently, but not most of the time. The lower ello’s will just have to learn how to deal with Brig. Their inability to learn is not going to make Blizzard balance the hero for them.
As a Rein main, I hate her lots (Expected) she can easily ruin a Reins Ultimate with ease. I played her and found her incredibly easy to play, not to mention very powerful.
People want nerfs for anything that counters what they play or they have a hard time dealing with. Doesn’t matter if there’s objective data suggesting a character is too powerful or not.
Theres a reason only Brig players are defending her. she makes the game frustrating and boring for pretty much everyone in the game. the only way to deal with it is to pick her yourself.
there is objective data that suggests that she is op in every bracket except the top of gm
blizzard a while back
“we don’t want to add role queue because we don’t want to choose the meta” Blizzard now
we don’t like dive we are going to force an anti dive meta
I refused to play her initially as I wasn’t big on her playstyle. I play Moira mostly and I barely noticed her initially. If she was on me I just faded away and ignored her, and when I did have to duel her I could usually make her at least leave me alone.
Fast forward to now, and I’m nearly a Brig main lol. Understanding her requires a holistic approach and a lot of it is to do with how a support player experiences the game. I spent many of my games unable to do anything or enjoy myself when there are flankers on me as absolutely nobody peels for their supports below the highest tiers, then everybody flames you for not healing when you’ve spent half the game dead. It’s pretty miserable. It’s common across all games with the support role, but it’s still crappy. It’s one of the many reasons why support has a low pickrate compared to DPS. Blizz is aware of this. If you are a DPS who doesn’t even know what peeling is, then you are by-and-large responsible for the existence of this character. If you had cast the occasional thought back to your supports, this character would simply be unnessecary and not in the game. Please take this into consideration next time you feel the need to beg for a nerf.
The other element of this is, of course, the meta. We got stuck with the same meta for over a year. A meta based on diving the supports. I lost interest in the OWL specifically because it was the same heros being played over and over again. That’s not entertaining to watch or play. This lasted way too long unfortunately and that’s probably the reason why Brig has recieved such a big backlash - people got so settled with Dive that a change was such a huge shock to the system. They could have sorted this with some buffs/nerfs across the roster i guess but that wouldnt solve the first problem i mentioned.
There are 2 types of responses to this systemic shock. There are those who refuse to adapt and instead troll the forums whilst continually losing because they want the game to be played their way and won’t accept anything else despite their being 40 Million player’s interests to balance. Usually tracer mains. Then there are those who have learned - they switch chars, strategys or learn to play around this new meta. Be the second one guys.
This. I used to play Mercy and nobody gives a crap if you’re being killed but they’ll still spam “I need healing!” regardless. At least as Brigitte I can defend myself and help out the other healer, because apparently only support players care.
When will you stop talking about streamers and pros? Stop using them as a proof. They are the 0.001% of the playerbase and you want them as balance point.
I still don’t see how she can be causing people THIS much trouble, I really don’t see where people think she is that OP she’s ruining the game.
There are soooooo many more Heros who are way more OP (relative to Brigitte). Pharah, who spends 90% of her time in the air where only 80% of the Heros can efficiently hit her, with her splash damage weapon aiming in your general direction and getting damage. Symmetra. Moira. Junkrat. Tracer. I dont fear anyone playing as Tracer and can 1v1 just about any character in the game, including tanks. Why is no-one kicking off about that? A 150HP Hero taking out Dva. What about Moira and Symmetra with their no aim needed weapons and plethora of other abilities? All Brigitte really has is her bash. That she needs to be in close proximity to use?
Maybe because I’ve played her a lot this Season and know where I can be dangerous and weak, I find it easier to kill other players as I’ll know where they’ll be most vulnerable.
Anyway. I’m still continuing to enjoy this Season, I like the challenge Brigitte brings both playing against and with.
They need to look at Mercy Zen and tone down Hanzo ult gain and tone down the damage on dragon it’s to much right now, Rein swinging into graviton + Hanzo dragonstrike + damage boost nothing survives even if Zen ults, normally you would need anti heal to break that, but why anti nade when you can damage boost, i hope this feedback makes it to devs, i want anything and everything to be viable, but if Mercy does Ana job better then why play Ana at all, Mercy heals for way more can damage boost at will even with valkery it gets more ridicilous.
I really would expect that would need anti nade to break Zen ult not a swinging Reinhardt + damage boosted dragonstrike into a graviton, that is just silly.
When was using GM tier talking about streamers and Pros?
Stop trying to try to use your tagline, when it makes no sense.
That is asking me to stop talking about streamers / pro’s when I wasn’t talking of either of them.
first off a lot of the things you are saying are wrong secondly you seem to be mixing up gameplay styles for individual people and the meta when a new hero comes out (if they are not a dps) its not your gameplay style that changes its the meta the team comps how the team plays not your individual gameplay style and her stun is comepletely unfair because look at mcree’s stun they last the same amount of time but mcree’ss flashbang has a cooldown of 10 secs while brigette’s is 5 and she is a support/off-tank she should not be able to stunn people so often besides that ‘‘wee bit’’ stun on a reinhardt that makes him drop his shield is devistating if the stunned rein is attacking it will be devestating for the attacking team as he can be killed easily in that 1 or 2 secs of downtime on the shield besides people are hating on her because not only because she’s op but she is extremely easy to play (easy to play not as in has a simple kit easy to play as in low skill high reward) people are currently abusing her power to get to ranks they don’t deserve i’m not saying anyone that plays her is trash i’m saying that bronze to gold players will suddenly find themselves in diamond when they pick her up wich is not good for the game if they are forced to play someone else overall brigette is not just a problem for the players she is making the game overall less fun
