"You take no skill" rant

Why this unnecessary post? Of course I don’t, it was sarcasm. Holy…

Did I mention I have been playing shooters since wolf3d was released? It’s not like I got Overwatch and found I was an aim savant all of a sudden…

They reviewed them because i paid them to. Except for the ex-pro, he looked at it because I refused to believe elo hell was bs, we argued, and he wanted to prove me wrong. He was surprised by the aim, but basically everything else was a long series of mistakes.

Apparently everyone did play pong here…

You… paid them to…? This is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Just show it to me and I might believe you. And you don’t have to pay me.
lmao

I also want to know what did they say? Did they maybe just say what you wanted to hear? “you are good wooow” because you paid them? Did they only say that? Did they give you advises? How long did that take? How much did you pay?

This sounds very obscure.

My first game was Manic Minor when i was 2 years old. I released my first custom level for the original Doom in 1996 :slight_smile:

I like how we get to be a bit nostalgic sometimes :slight_smile:

Also, I for one would love to improve my game by learning more from this person who has improved their game so much, rather than complaining at him.

Hows about a thread about some of the stuff you learned, TheEx?

Eh to be honest, it’s not very MANY things, it’s a few concepts that you already appear to know. The majority of the time spent on game analysis are finding the places I die, or we wipe, and figuring out why that happened. What exactly was I doing that was a mistake, and why was it a mistake? Like I was intending to achieve this when I did that, and ended up dying. Was there any information that I could have noticed and used that would have made me do something else? Oh, I missed this sound queue, and if I’d paid attention I wouldn’t have walked around that corner. That sort of thing.

Very hard to come up with anything to make a list from, but I can try :confused:

The only thing I would counter argue is that if the game lets you reach Masters with one hero, then you are awful with all the rest, then that is an issue with the way the game ranks people.

Perhaps placement games should all be Mystery Heroes, then the game assigns you a rank from there. It would even out the playing field for everyone that way given your rank would be based on your skill with every single hero, not just the ones you liked?

You should definitely not have to be able to play all heroes well. Knowing 2-3 from your class well is what I would consider mandatory as you have enough flexibility to switch to something viable no matter what.

Someone climbing far above their true mmr using a single, brand new and unique hero doesn’t mean he will stay there even using that hero. He’s simply exploiting the fact that people hasn’t learned to play against it yet.

Most heroes take no skill… Don’t get butthurt about it.

I think players forget coordinating and teamwork awareness and game sens is also skill just get good.

Genjis “skill-profile” is kind of the complete opposite of Mercy’s. She’s more closely related to Soldier than to Genji, and Genji-mains usually don’t do very well on Soldier even though they’re both mobile (to different extents ofc) dps, so imagine how alien Mercy would be to them. Since they often think that “skill is skill”, and also often lack skill without knowing it, they think that Mercy should be doing the same thing they’re doing. Since they are convinced they’re awesome they’re of course not making the wrong decision and Mercy should come to the same one. Except that decision is horrible, and even if it was a good decision for a Genji in isolation it isn’t necessarily for a Genji with a Tracer.

But well, you may find comfort in the fact that good players know Mercy requires skill. So anyone claiming the opposite is mediocre at best.

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Right you know I wasn’t being serious?!

But again the point remains, if you can one-trick your way to masters and not be able to play any other heroes then thats an issue with the game.

Either you just accept the fact that there will be Moira, Brigitte, DF GMs or you counter argue that to rank everyone should get that rank with more than one hero.

Moira and Mercy do require skill however it is a different type of skill.
yes they do not require mechanical skill but they require a high amount of game knowledge and cooldown management to play effectively

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Completely agree with this. I think the people that complain simply consider “skill” to be tracking. Which is not what, to be fair most of the heroes, require.

In fact if you take general tracking and FPS “skill” to be the basis then its only really McCree, Soldier, Tracer, Genji, Hanzo, Widow etc that need this. None of the tanks do really, nor the supports (except obviously Ana) or the niche defense heroes.

As you say, cooldown management, awareness, game knowledge are much better basis for the term “skill”

I especially hate when you’re clearly doing something useful or at least vaguely impressive and they write it off because your hero “takes no skill”
Like I posted 2 back to back quad kills with my D.va ult on insta and the comments were all about how it takes no skill, bro if it’s that easy why don’t you be a d.va main and quad kill your way to top500, enjoy silver b!*?#

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Aim is a hard to learn skill.
Game sense bla bla is an easy to learn skill.

Right and some people just wont be as good as others at aiming. But the point of overwatch isnt just aim, otherwise all heroes would just be hitscan.

But they’re not.

If you want to just play hitscan go play COD or something…

You will never convince him of this.

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People with aim will always be more skilled. That’s the point. And they are mostly even better at game sense than the ones with bad aim as well.

Yeah people think aiming is the only thing that needs skill. I find zen to be much easier than mercy to play, mercy is exausting, you have go be quick and know how to fly around the battlefield like a mosquito. I think support is the hardest role to play good, then dps and then tanks the easiest which I often play. Not saying its like that for everyone but I personally think tanks are easier than dps and dps is easier than support. Then ofc there are exceptions like i think zarya is very hard, and zen to be fairly easy, also like winston i find winston to be harder than reaper etc. Anyways, aiming is not the only thing that needs skill. I have played cs for 8 years i know how to aim. Just because I prefer to smash people with a Hammer doesnt change that.

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